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Got 300+ Countries In Your Ofec Album?

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 Posted 03/10/2015  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list
SAP, your the man!!

I must say I'm quite impressed with your knowledge AND ideology on collecting world coins!

I really appreciate you for putting a method to Numista's madness!

I guess you've already figured out that this peer-driven site was originally started and mostly moderated by Frenchies, hence all of the loose French interpretations of the names of some countries on their list!

I have been wanting to transfer my coins to a much nicer "Deluxe" coin friendly album for some time now, but just the thought of attemping to arrange them in a more logical order was truly daunting!

But thanks to your A-Z revision of the list (that must have taken you numerous man hours of research), I can't wait to get started!

I realize that it will always be a work in progress, as I strive to include other various subsets, but at least it will be more fluent read, but most importanly....I will finally be happy with it, thus achieving that sense of accomplishment that I require after every personal project I complete or goal I set and then surpass.

You are all correct in your statements concerning Numista's current state of disarray. Maybe we can convince SAP to sign up and moderate the moderators!

And Wade, your OFEC collection is Awesome and quite similar to mine! I too chose to use well circulated coins for certain countries to give the album more character and validity. As well as lots of silver and a single gold coin.

Once again, thanks to everyone for all your responses!
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 Posted 03/10/2015  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
My OFEC collection is at 248 by Numista's count. However, Numista has certain inconsistencies, as previously discussed. My biggest objection is that "German States", "Indian Princely States", "Canadian Provinces", etc. only count as one country - so, doesn't matter if you have 20 coins from 20 different German states or 5 coins from 5 different Canadian provinces, you're only getting +1 to your Numista country count. If all of these instances were separated out, I think I would have about 15 more countries added to my list.

Then there's colonialism. "India - Republic" and "India - British" are kept separate. But! What about "South Africa - British", "South Africa - Republic"? There is no distinction to be seen! Same story with Mozambique, Angola, Cabo Verde, Seychelles, Mauritius, and many, many more. If you also separate out colonies and independent republics, the count jumps ever higher.

And, if you choose to make a distinction between Kingdoms, Republics, and People's Republics (as seen on the Numista listings for France, but no other country), that's even more.

So, if I were to make my own count of what I consider to be radically different countries, my count goes above 300. Or, that's what I tell myself, anyway...

I'm a fairly regular Numista contributor, lots of scans on that website are mine. Recently, the flags next to the icons were all updated, and now the Tokens section is being slowly fixed up as well. Maybe the country list will be next.

By the way, the U.A.R. is also a recent change and a subject of some controversy. To me, it depends what those coins say on them. If they say "United Arab Republic" instead of Egypt, I think they belong under the United Arab Republic - but - few collectors can read Arabic (myself included), so the lack of familiarity leads to bitter arguments.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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Newfoundland gets stuck in Canadian provinces but based off how other things are in the catalog it could almost be independent.

Newfoundland was "independent", as far as being separate from Canada or anywhere else except Britain was concerned. Under the Statute of Westminster (and Act of the British parliament in 1931), six "Dominions" were recognized: Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, Newfoundland and South Africa. Personally, I count all of the Canadian Provinces of the 19th century as "separate countries" too.

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Stupid little miconations: Micronesia

Micronesia, despite its name, is not a micronation; it's a fully fledged member of the United Nations. However, all of the "coins" issued in its name are unoffical. Until MIcronesia actually issues legal tender coins, the country "belongs" with Galapagos Islands, etc and Numista should be consistent: either include them all, or exclude them all. Personally, I'd prefer Numista include them, but perhaps in a separate "unrecognized countries" list, or colour them a different colour or something.

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Malay peninsula. What is this? Not a country, just an area.

But a useful agglomeration of mini-states - just like "German states" and "Italian states". Again, they have to choose - either list each state as a separate country, or slap down a bunch of these vague geographic block labels. More such "blocks" are to be preferred if this is the way to go, to cover other "gaps"; as I mentioned above, "Indonesian states" is one such that remains missing.

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United States - Pre-Federal, not sure how this is useful.

It's where I put my Virginia 1773 halfpenny. Of course, in my own list it's a separate country, under "V".

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India is broken out into categories that don't make much sense. Why Ancient, kingdoms and states?

Presumably because that's how the Krause catalogues do it: there is a curious division of the Indian states into "Princely states" and "Independent kingdoms", which I can't really tell the difference between; presumably it's got something to do with their diplomatic staus with Britain/EIC at the time, but I think they'd be better off simply merging those two categories. I don't know where Numista users file pre-Mughal Indian states coins, such as the sultanates of Dehli and Bengal; "ancient", "states" and "kingdoms" are their options, I suppose.

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Then there's colonialism. "India - Republic" and "India - British" are kept separate. But! What about "South Africa - British", "South Africa - Republic"?

Well, one could argue that "British India" and the "Republic of India" are separate, on the grounds that there is a border change as well as a regime change; "British India" also included what we now call Pakistan, Bangladesh and (for a time) Burma, but did not include the ten small Portuguese and French exclaves that still existed in 1947.

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To me, it depends what those coins say on them.

This also is a general principle I try to apply; if it "says" a different name on the coin, it gets filed under whatever name is there on the coin. I'll also freely admit I also apply this rule rather arbitrarily, especially for non-Latin-alphabet-using countries; I split "Ceylon" and "Sri Lanka" at the 1972 name change, but ignore completely the fact that "Thailand" was called "Siam" prior to 1939.

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If they say "United Arab Republic" instead of Egypt, I think they belong under the United Arab Republic - but - few collectors can read Arabic (myself included), so the lack of familiarity leads to bitter arguments.

Syria and Egypt federating into the UAR was a "difference that made no difference" as far as the coinage was concerned, because the two halves of the country kept completely separate currencies. So if you're going to separate the UAR from the Egypts and Syrias that came before and after, you'll really need two of them: "UAR - Egypt" and "UAR - Syria".
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Posted 03/10/2015  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
I'm going argue for Lundy, simply for the fact that Harman had the cohonies to buy the island, name himself king & illegally issued his own currency.
the fact he chose his currency to be named "Puffins" seals the deal.

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Stupid little miconations: Micronesia


micronesia counts as "tokens", not as a country (or at least it did last time I was on numista)
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03/10/2015 9:20 pm
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 Posted 03/12/2015  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierZ to your friends list
I think as I've counted it I am at 287 according to Numistma but it's a little confusing, like where is British Guinea? I also don't understand how Newfoundland, Prussia or the Papal States are not listed seperatly. And how is Russia not listed as Czarist, USSR and modern?
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 Posted 03/12/2015  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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...where is British Guinea?

There is not, and never has been, a place called "British Guinea". There was a place called "British Guiana", in South America next to French Guiana and Dutch Guiana; British Guiana is now called "Guyana". "Guinea" is a region in Africa; it is also the name of two separate though neighboring countries in that region, neither of which were ever owned by Britain (one was French, the other Portuguese).
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Posted 03/12/2015  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
Or maybe you want New Guinea?
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 Posted 03/12/2015  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierZ to your friends list
Yes, I meant British Guiana.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list
@XavierZ - Are you the Xavier from Numista.com?
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 Posted 03/30/2015  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierZ to your friends list
No
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 Posted 03/30/2015  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list
Oh, no worries.

to the CCF! Stick around, it's a great place!
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 Posted 03/30/2015  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colin's Coins to your friends list
I have probably like 20 countries. My collection is not very extensive at all.
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 Posted 08/27/2015  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Check geraltttt82's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add geraltttt82 to your friends list
After some fast calculations with numista list, I count in my colection 331 / 397 but using Krause I made another section but only for XX century

A - all main countries (or period like Spanish Civil War/ Chinese Provinces / India Princely States/ German States and Mexico Revolutionary) - here I have 309 / 313

B - all from A, but also provinces like Fukien etc. German States like Prusia, Saxony etc., Argentina - Catamarca and La Rioja end so on. Here I have 380 / 464

C - all from A / B and also all reforms, periods, rulers, tokens for example Argentina had: 1. Republic Decimal Coinage / 2. Reform 1970 - 83 / 3. Reform 1983 - 85 /4. Reform 1985 - 92/5. Reform 1992 - /6. Province Token Catamarca /7. Province Token La Rioja
and here I have only 638 / 1080

First I will try to finish the "A" - section ;) then maybe I will live long enough to finish the rest.
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 Posted 08/27/2015  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add apeka to your friends list
I am an OFEC and I have 250 countries according to numista. and 256 countries according to col.nect . I still have a long way to 300.

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08/27/2015 1:46 pm
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 Posted 08/27/2015  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mister Kairu to your friends list
Still fairly new from a $5 bunch of coins from different countries on ebay and from a bag full my dad collected in the Navy, I have 176 coins from 71 countries according to Numista. Actually 72 since I havent gotten to putting on my US coins on there, just my foreign ones.
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