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Yikes! I wonder if that is going to be the next Yellowstone quarter design.  Here's what I'd do to that bison if it were me  ... |
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Great... now the seller has ended the second auction as well!
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Why do you think the coin is legit? What variety is it?
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If that coin is not legit it's scary good. Look at the die wear on the reverse from UNITED to the rim. I don't recall seeing that on a counterfeit copy but then I haven't seen any copies other than the obvious chinese junk.
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This is definitely a case of buy the seller not the coin. Something fishy's Goin on in Dodge for sure
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Dave I just pulled up multiple pages of BIG enlargements from Heritage and spent about an hour making comparisons to previously auctioned 03s and feel it's a good coin. I'm thinking the original winner/buyer asked to cancel the transaction for some reason, and then the seller got cold feet on selling even at his/her "newly revised price" which is still cheap for this coin. I can't imagine why the first winner let the seller off the hook. edit: you do see that the seller's example is a 3/3 variety yes? I don't know much about this series/year but that's got to add some value. edit: Cascade, since you so love a toned dollar (and so do I  ) I'll ask, did you see this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/11166813499...RK:MEBIDX:ITI didn't even know NGC did such as this! Edited by rynegold
05/17/2015 4:46 pm
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Sure they do, multi coin holders are cool when you first realize they exist though. The coins are decent, with the crecent being tops imo but I can't say I'm too fond of the package though. Kinda feels like theyre forcing you to buy all 3 and for that money I would do better. I like the gamble of buying raw personally but I'm a lucky kinda guy. Knowing what I know now I can't believe I've never bought a toner that didn't get into a righteous slab especially when I was starting out. Ccf has refined my pallet in a big way for sure. Now, aything less than stunning or unusual just dosent interest me as much anymore in terms of adding to my personal collection
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Well, it appears to the extent the images allow that it matches the pickups for B-6/BB-255, the only Large Date for the year. The recut 3 is characteristic of it, as is the serifed top of the 3. None of the feature locations on the reverse bother me.
Everything else about this matter makes me scratch my head. The coin is horribly cleaned and was obviously once much darker. The technical grade only makes XF during Leap Year. The on-again, off-again nature of the sales is odd. As is the fact that he appears to have missed an "off" because when I looked a bit ago he had it up twice at once in active auctions.
I'm sorta (almost) speechless. Much of what I've mentioned is also known counterfeiter methodology, to mask the other evidence of the counterfeit and settle for an XF coin worth $5-8k rather than risk an AU or better coin getting picked apart in the market.
Just don't know what to think here. This thread needs more Early Dollar people.
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Coin has been whizzed with a dremel. It appears to be the Large Date, but, the 3 in the date appears to be to high (it almost touches the trunk of the bust) Whizzing is a common way to obscure the tell-tale signs of scratches/tooling etc. Authentication of this coin would have to be done in person because of these issues.
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05/17/2015 11:03 pm
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This is a scary statement in the current listing... "This coin has never been sent in to be graded due to the high cost." Personally I just sent in an 1802 Draped Bust Silver Dollar to PCGS and it graded VF Details, at the "high" cost of $69.95 (plus shipping to get it to PCGS) That aside my rules on ebay are: 1. Buy the seller first (returns accepted? feedback, location, other items listed and sold.) 2. Then buy the pictures, and not the slab. 3. If any of these are questionable, then I will ask the seller for more information/pictures. If these rules fail, then my business goes elsewhere. As to this coin specifically, it "appears authentic" based on my limited knowledge, the 2 pictures provided, and text in the description with weights and measurements. But pictures of the lettered edge would be nice since it is not in third party plastic. JMHO Edited by peaece13
05/18/2015 07:40 am
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Um, there's no coin certified under the number "6901" on pc gs. I'd call it fake, though a really good one
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He has it up for 1799 now.
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1. Who in their right mind would sell such a valuable coin without a proper TPG? 2. Who in their right mind would buy such a valuable coin without a proper TPG? "Who are you? Who. Who. Who. Who?" Pete Townshend Edited by 999fine
05/24/2015 1:40 pm
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