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Moderator
 United States
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I hope you will be able to get your money back. Both coins are clearly fake.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Same thoughts as echizento hope you get your money back and make sure to buy only from reputable dealers. People here can help guide you.
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New Member
 Australia
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I have been offered a refund on the philip II tetradrachm and the hemidrachm from the same seller, no word on whether I will get money for postage back though. The philip II wasn't even silver (XRF'd), though the hemidrachm was. I'm waiting until the Macedonian coin actually arrives before I ask for a refund. The two other ancient coins I bought before I posted here I hold out a little more hope for although the second coin of the pair (they were listed together) is of a type that I've seen on the fake list, though it might have been a fake of a real coin. I'm sure I'll be posting again opinions when they arrive.
I am very grateful for your assistance.
As I said before I will be saving my money and buying just a couple of more interesting coins from more reputable sources. With all the refund money I'll be loaded for bear when I see the right early Lydian silver. I almost bought a hammered Richard II quater noble the other day but it wasn't in the best shape and buying coins with obvious problems goes against my new rules.
I have to say though that getting into ancient coins has taken the shine off of my early Australian sovereign collection a little. They just don't represent the same amazing history to me any more.
Anyhow,again, thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is very true that not all copies of ancient coins are cast.
Dies for striking can be hubbed of a 3D print of the original coin. The newly hubbed dies can also be tooled to distinguish them stylistically from the original coin, and to clean up the lettering and devices.
As such, each blank can also still be highly individualistic.
If you don't really know how to pick such fakes, it pays to buy from an experienced expert in his field, with an established and well respected reputation.
(I am still very much 'half baked' on MY learning curve.)
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New Member
 Australia
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Valued Member
Canada
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I think both appear to be real, but I would wait for what others say and I checked the ebay listing and it looks like the seller put up the wrong picture for the obverse, because it doesn't match the coin you got.  It was the same as the coin from another listing of his http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ancient-Gre...047675.l2557
Edited by arnoldoe 07/01/2015 12:12 am
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Valued Member
Canada
266 Posts |
I just noticed the seller said the Philip II coin weighed 16.6g, which would be pretty heavy, it should be around 13.8-14.5 grams
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New Member
 Australia
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Geez your very sharp, tracking down the auction. Yes I did notice that and I'm contacting him. I figured best to get a read on if they are genuine first so I could raise the issues all at once.
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New Member
 Australia
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Just weighed them, the philip II is 13.6 and the Alexander is 16.78. The Alexander is about 2mm wider on average and slightly thicker with higher relief even though it's obviously more worn.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Edited by arnoldoe 07/01/2015 12:48 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1006 Posts |
1st is an imitation from the style, 2nd looks genuine but to much wear to be the one pictured.
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New Member
 Australia
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You mean a period imitation? Or a modern imitation? I've usually done pretty well on ebay, though that's with me sticking with what I know where I'm able to evaluate what I'm getting much better. I'll be glad when it's all over with. Frankly I should have known better though.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1006 Posts |
Period to me not modern and as such worth considerably less. Mate if you are that desperate for ancient Macedonian coins I will sell you my collection feeling like a new car lol
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New Member
 Australia
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I bought them all in a 48 hour period, it's not like I went back to the well after I got bit. I don't mind an imitation, just glad to have something that's not been made in a Turkish garage :)
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Yeah I wasn't having a jibe at you I was more joking about selling my collection. Sorry for any unintentional offence mate.
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