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Quote: I think you meant to say: John Wexler's, 1984 book? my76strat, I sure did. I made the correction. Thanks!
Edited by koinpro 06/30/2015 10:09 am
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WOW koinpro, that was a good read. Very informational. I think I need a brake 
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Wow, thanks for all the interesting info and the story!! Ken, so you think there were only a couple thousand made due to the EDS?
Edited by kakaratt77 06/30/2015 10:25 am
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Those stories are always exciting and encouraging-note to self 'locate coin shops bordering retirement villages' !
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The nickel I posted is a cast counterfeit, there is a seam on the rim of the coin, weights slightly less then a real one, and when dropped sounds different, also sent it to a couple of coin collectors and posted it on facebook groups and all agree its a cast counterfeit :)
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kakaratt77,
I'll speculate that they might have only made a few thousand (maybe less) to maybe 10,000 or so. However, many more could have been made and been in tubs that were caught and destroyed. In the end, even if they did make 10,000 (just to reach for a number) it appears the majority were destroyed. While, the specimens I've seen appear to me to be EDS in all area except around the date area, they do show hints of die flow lines and are not VEDS in my opinion.
Edited by koinpro 07/01/2015 07:11 am
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Thank you Ken Potter, a great read indeed. People like you are needed more and more in this hobby.
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Ken,
Good thing you bring the facts into light, PCGS should be notify to correct their mis-information on their web pages.
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I forgot that John Wexler published the story on the Counterfeit 1969 doubled die in the February 28,1981 issue of Error-Variety News. I own the reprint rights to EVN and if I can find that issue will scan it in and post it.
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Thanks for the reply Ken and the great info!!
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Bedrock of the Community
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If you found a bag of these (out of 5,000 you might have hundreds) would you speak up and sell them off at random and flood the market? The price would drop drastically. So then you would be discrete about it. I know of a collector who bought a box of cents and there were so many DDOs/DDRs he will see selling them for years to come. He mailed me a roll of them and there was 19 DDOs out of 50 in that roll. So you sell them off slowly.
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Quote: 19 DDOs out of 50 in that roll. Lord, what were they?
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I once purchased two rolls of 1964-D Kennedy half dollars. 19 of the coins were RPM-002 and 20 were DDO-001 (Tripled Die). One coin was a more minor DDO. I purchased several boxes of 2009 FY cents for resale and peeked through the holes in the box and saw a few of the rolls had one of the top varieties so I opened the box. It contained over 1000 doubled dies spread out among seven different dies, with most being from one of two dies. The box only contained two of the Skeleton Fingers. On the 1969-S, one way we can ascertain that most were probably destroyed (if many were made) is the absence of any quantity being found in any of the bags or rolls. The most I'm aware of in a roll is one coin. The fellow from Michigan who found two, found them in two separate rolls.
Edited by koinpro 07/04/2015 09:46 am
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This part of the PCGS article is also wrong. Quote: A true 1969-S Doubled Die Obverse cent will not have doubling on the mintmark as the mintmark was punched into the die separately. I have seen at least one genuine 69-S DDO with Machine Doubling on the mintmark.
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Quote: CoinHuntingDrew: Lord, what were they? This was one of the ones in that roll: http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mdsThere were other different varieties also in the roll beside this die number. (not part of the 19 mentioned) There was a doubled die on the bust as well. Here is a side by side:  Note the ears and beard.
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