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why is the legend so perfectly preserved, and not the beads? Maybe the first strike was done at a low pressure, such as in a die set-up strike? That would explain the weakness in the beads. If both strikes were done at a low pressure, that might be why the coin is so flat - without the usual distortion from the second strike. The coin does appear to have genuine damage from being stuck in a coin counting machine.  Often error coins are discovered this way. This adds a hint of credibility to it being authentic, or at least it having seen some circulation. |
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The fact that it appears to have a second strike off-centre pretty much tells me everything...
A bronze penny is pretty soft... even with a weak strike, it should flatten the rim to the same elevation of the fields (which is the highest point on the die)... you should be able to trace exactly where the edge of the die is for an off-centre strike, even on a weak second strike...
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nice coin I liked even if it does not look like the one spp posted.dont be too quick to get ready it..
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I still like it too. I am going to take more detailed pictures and post them to see if we can figure this one out. I think the second strike (false/soft die strike) of the queen has amazingly good detail. I am impressed with whomever faked this coin...if that is what happened.
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I am leaning to legit. Coin in hand would be required for positive response/negative response.
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try to find die markers that match for the first and second strike....this will help cause both strikes would occur from the same die.
Feel free to call me Will.
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I don't know anything about these kinds of errors, but doesn't that "railroad" rim indicate that the coin was struck 4 times? I might be imagining things, but I think I see 4 different sets of beads on the reverse in the first set of photos. Are those beads directly above "CENT" or just something about the photo? And then the more distinct beads above CENT closer to the rim seem to have two different arcs. Well anyway, I find this discussion interesting.
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I see what you mean, Kppbll. I will try to get better photos of the area above cent on the reverse.
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I am still puzzled why the second (or last) strike on the reverse, is missing the beads on the left side of the reverse - that is the hammer die, they should be there, especially since we see them from the first strike...
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Thanks for adding these extra pics.
I find the 4 clear stacked rim images to be very interesting
..and an important added detail.
..but I'll let the experts try to work this out.
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I don't know where to go from here. I have never had a potential double or multiple struck coin in my possession before.
I wonder if Mike Diamond has checked this thread out? If you say his name out loud three times does he suddenly appear? Mike Diamond, Mike Diamond, Mike Diamond. Lol
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What about struck twice both times partially out of collar, creating a double railroad rim effect? Coin may have been on a slight angle in collar causing the beads not to strike up very well on the left of the reverse and the right of the obverse.
The last picture is kind of odd it nearly looks like 3 strikes.
Well thats my guess until we hear from more of the experts.
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It looks like a genuine double strike to me. The four steps on the edge suggests we might be dealing with two successive partial collar strikes. But face-on, the first strike looks to have been fully within the collar while the second strike looks like it was an uncentered broadstrike. Puzzling. The incomplete arc of beads on the reverse face is also a bit puzzling, but it doesn't unduly alarm me. Figuring out precisely what happened would take a close-up exam.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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07/10/2015 11:20 pm
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Thank you Mike, Spp, nickelsguy, and all the rest that passed on opinions. I appreciate it.
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