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Valued Member
United States
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I think pre 1964 half dollars or 1965 thru 1969 half dollars are good investment since you can still find them easy from roll hunting and get them for face value all day long if you look around for them. Its silver at face value from roll hunting.
The reason I say they good investment is dealers pay you 9 x face on 64 halfs if you trade with coin dealer. Example if you pay 10 bucks for an roll 64 halfs from roll hunting those bank boxs. Its worth 90 bucks to an coin dealer on trades. Example if he has 1931 s cent for 90 bucks. You trade an get the 1931 s cent for 10 bucks becides paying 90 bucks using federal reserve notes like worthless paper money. You pay 10 bucks for coin and not 90 bucks
The dealer is happy is sells the roll of pre 64 halfs for 110 or 120 bucks to silver investor who collects those things or metal bullion investor.
On the 1965 thru 1969 half dollars they are 40% silver and they pay less on them. Melted down 1 coin is worth 2.25 with silver at 15 bucks per ounce.
This my goal this year is to finish 13 incomplete sets pennys and maybe 5 sets of nickels , one dime sets. Tons of them incomplete sets . I need finish each set complete with all keys.
I saved over 400 dollars face on worthless 1971 thru 2000 half dollars. I am going buy 5000 dollars worth half dollars from bank to search for silver. I will replace each silver coin with one of mine 1971 thru 2000 clad coins from searching. I will spend 5000 at bank and next week I will sell 5000 dollars back to bank after I search them. It may take serval times before my intire 400 dollars face is turned into silver coins.
When I get 400 to 500 dollars face on silver halfs. I will make an trade with an dealer on geting all my sets finished . My sets later can be sold later no problem if want sell them.
So buy as many half dollar boxs you find from your locol bank and start pulling silver. I know an guy who pulled over 15000 dollars worth junk halfs last year from searching half dollar boxs. He was spending 5000 per weak on bank boxs to get those silver coins.
One other coin investment thats good deal is 1959 thru 1982 copper pennys to save for copper bullion. They are worth 2 cents each you can buy at locol bank. I buy those 25 dollar bank boxes and remove maybe 4 to 5 dollars worth copper pennys. I make 25 dollar bricks of all 59 thru 82 coppers . I sell them for 50 bucks each since they are copper bullion. I toss the 83 thru 07 zincs back into banks since they are worthless. Its same thing they years ago with silver dimes or quarters. With copper pennys you can double your money since your buying at bank.
Bad coin Investments I learned the hard away and would not buy if you. 1999 silver proof sets. I paid 300 bucks for one. Its onley worth 250 greysheat and dealer buy it know is 199. I would not buy any proof sets or mint sets since they are money losers I learned. So dont buy those things.
Chevrolet454ss
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Bullions in my opinion is one of the WORST ways to invest your money, even worse if you are buying them in other currenies other than USD. A weak USD only makes the prices appear that it's increasing dramatically whereas in reality it is just growing slowly. There are a few precious metal mines that I know are scheduled to be open from 2010-2012 in response to the high metal prices as mining companies will not want to miss the chance of these prices - they are extremely profitable at the moment. Some of the few companies are BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto, Anglo, etc.
You might want to argue that if you are trading in USD, you might be making a profit but you should take in account of the inflation that is going on at the moment. Not much of a bargain in my opinion.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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http://www.us-coin-values-advisor.c...or-sale.htmlAbove is a great website that discusses that issue. It seems keys are the way to go. Lincolns are hot right now. Also, I think lower grade keys tend to be good investments. Especially those grades where the next higher sees a huge price jump. And even better if you can obtain a (lower), hard to find grade. I won an PCGS G6 1922 plain cent with strong reverse for just under $600 (including shipping). I was ecstatic because that's a really tough hole to fill, and they're impossible to find in such low (reasonable priced) grades. Last I will say it's not a good idea to buy coins if you only view them as an investment. Hobby first, investment second? Absolutely. There are much better and more efficient places to put your investment money. Also, if you're not a hobbyist, the learning curve of the Coin World would be overwhelming.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Key date coins to popular series are a great investment. Some coins I'm talking about are the 1916-D Mercury dime, 1909-S VDB and 1914-d Lincoln Cent, 1916 Standing Liberty quarter, 1932-S and 1932-D Washington quarters. These coins been increasing steadily for the last 10 years. For a bullion coin, I would consider Platinum Eagles. Platinum is a much rarer metal than Gold and is primarily used in catalytic converters.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you're collecting then you might be best off going with what everyone else thinks. You'll have a lot of fun no matter what you collect if you pay attention, but you'll have more company if you go with the crowd.
It's not a good idea to invest in collectibles probably but the way to make money in any investment is to be a contrarian. It's very difficult to get in early if you go with the crowd and even tougher to get out in time.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
Edited by cladking 01/06/2008 12:00 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Spider, I disagree with your thoughts of your platinum bullion. It is indeed true that about 50% of platinum demand is used for catalysts but a bigger amount of palladium are used for catalysts. As for such, the prices of palladium has been increasing in response to the high platinum prices. There are researchs of how to significantly reduce the amount of PGMs used for catalysts and there are studies of how gold can be a possiblity. All these depends on the metal pricing. The only reason why platinum prices are so high up is simply because historically palladium supply has been shown to be quite unreliable as 50% of palladium supply comes from Russia. Currently there are big discoveries of platinum ores by Impala Platinum in Zimbabwe which a high possiblity of adding another 1 million ounces by 2012 per year which is at least 10% of the current supply. The only thing that is keeping the supply production is the current Zimbabwe politics that is making mining companies fleeing from the mad regime. It is extremely premature to say that prices of platinum will keep rising simply because of the current demand trend. In the near future, yes, it's likely that prices of platinum will keep going up. But for how much longer? What if subtitutes of platinum was replaced by palladium rapidly? Have you even bothered to check the amount of future supply that's going to be coming online in the next few years? I highly recommand you to read this site before any speculations http://www.platinum.matthey.com/
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You asked, " Do you all think buying lots of silver is a good investment?"
If I'm not mistaken, the price of silver has doubled over a relatively (recent) short period of time. That does not mean it'll continue to go up anymore than it means it may stall.
Jim
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Pillar of the Community
United States
628 Posts |
I think the key, as always, is buy low sell high. My Two Cents worth; Gold, common dates, AU58 to MS63.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I've been collecting coins for 0ver 60 years. The prices have at times leveled off especially during recessions, bad times, etc. However, I've never seen them drop in value. Usually the problem with coins is the liquidity. If times get bad the coins values may be steady but no one to buy them makes that not so true. If you look through all the years of the Red Book you will notice prices are steady or rising. During good times there are coin shows, coin stores, ebay, other auction houses selling coins. When the ecomomy drops, most of those also drop or vanish completely. Unlike Beanie Babies or Baseball Cards, coins have hung in there for thousands of years. And as far as Bullion. That has gone up and down dramatically over the years. Poor investment. Remember not to long ago some people tried to make a fortune on the rising Silver market and lost a massive amount of money. My prediction is in a few years after the 2009 Lincoln Cents are released, no more State Quarters, lack of interest in the baby dollars, the coin market will stabilize for several years.
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No longer with us
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207 Posts |
THANKS FOR YOUR EXPERIENCE IN ANSWERING MY QUESTION JUSTCARL.
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New Member
United States
29 Posts |
I'm new to this but I really like the look of silver american eagles. Silver has been a good investment and it's a cool coin.
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Valued Member
United States
374 Posts |
key dates any grade but they must be problem free. Everybody hoards keydates and they dont see the light of day. All my keys and semi keys are locked away. waiting for me to retire which is around 15 years from now.
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Valued Member
United States
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On RedBook do not use that book. Its inflated and not wholesale prices. Buy copy of blue book also. Grey sheat aka Cdn coin dealer. Also study Coin shop buy it know prices on stuff before you buy it. Example stuff I see thats wrong. Indian head common date rolls pennys of 50 cents each. Greysheat they worth 65 per roll. Dealers sell retail is 65 to 100 bucks per roll. Dealers buy price is 25 bucks per roll. So study dealer it now prices on anything you buy. Also check completed sales on ebay. I dont see coins as good investment. If buy from coin shops or dealers. Reason they are needing to make profit to stay open. You cant make an profit from another dealer it seems. In ordor to make profit later or get an good investment you need to beat dealer at his game. Silver eagles from us mint are worst investment ever. Reason you pay 19.95 each for them from us goverment. You will lose money if sold them since they like 5 bucks over silver spot price on net. Check kitco.com to learn base metal prices on silver and gold prices. If buy those silver eagles try find dealer who sells them around spot price at kitco. Do buy them from us mint since its an rip off at 19.95 each. Most dealers will pay around spot on those. Chevrolet454ss
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1247 Posts |
I like being a contrarian collector because I can understand it. I've never been able to understand going with the crowd. The higher prices go, the closer you get to the top. It doesn't matter where the top is. Each spike brings you closer which means there is less time left or more potential risk. And there is less distance which means less potential profit. It's increasing potential risk for decreasing potential profit. Maybe I need one of those persons they call "talent" from wallstreet to expain that one to me. 
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