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Valued Member
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I tried emailing you and got a message stating;
"This Member does not wish to receive e-mail."
There should be a setting to change this somewhere. I'll try emailing you tomorrow or later today.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Found it and changed my settings to receive e mail , thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"gesetzl gesch' means protected by law. I'm sure the folks at Werhmachtawards.com could tell you all there is to know about these two items.
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United States
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Just thought I'd add one of the only ww2 German items I have in my collection to share with you guys. Jon fish, do you know exactly what this is? 
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Hi Cascade, Sure- it's a panzer assault badge. Brought in during December 1939 the criteria was for panzer personnel to have been engaged in 3 armoured assaults in 3 days, or to have been wounded in the course of an action or to have won a bravery award in the course of an assault. That's a silver version and there were circa 20,000 awarded. The valuable ones are the ones with '25' , '50' , '75' ,'100' to signify the number of engagements the guy would have been involved with. Its a nice badge.
In regards to the first 2 badges, apologies I let the member know directly but for the benefit of the forum members its a type one blood order and a gold party badge (gilt by mercury firing, not solid gold). The blood orders numbered 4500 in total, 1500 of which were the 1st type, awarded in 1933 to putchists that took part in that event in 1923, the other 3000 or so were mostly to Austrians involved in the NSDAP in Austria whilst the party was still illegal there, before Hitler brought Austria back in to the Reich. The gold party badge was awarded to around 22,000 of the first 100,000 people to join the NSDAP (Nazi party). The other 80,000 or so did not qualify as they had not kept their subs paid up to date and that was one of the criteria. Members had sometimes 3 or 4 gold party badges and also several blood orders, they could apply for replacements and often did. The medal was issued in a red case with a red ribbon. The case is usually missing nowadays. There were also award certificates issues, again mostly missing and hard to find.
Hope this helps.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for the info john. I've always just called it a tank badge but wondered if it may have had to do with that huge tank the nazis had. Guess not but Panzer assault badge sounds wicked. So you said silver. Is it actual solid silver of some percentage?
Sorry to snipe your thred for a second rage.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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No it will likely be Zinc based , although some of the earlier ones were silver or bronze plated. That looks like a solid back version, they also did a stamped out thinner version. As with everything there are a good few variations and makers and also as with everything some guys focus their specialism on that badge, much as I do on the badges Rage posted. Glad to help, I'm sure rage won't mind at all.
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United States
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Yup its solid with a flat back, not punched. I did't find any hallmarks on it which is why I was asking about the silver. Thanks for the knowledge. Its my only German piece although I did have an ndsp Gorget I sold 2 yrs ago for 2k in its original box to the pawn stars military expert. Most of my ww2 collection is us military like artist sketches of soldiers and sterling sweetheart bracelets and pilots wings etc. I even sold a 14th AF flying tigers cbi theatre bomber jacket plus the guys footlocker, letters & Ontario knife for 9k about 2 yrs ago. I was on cloud 9 after that sale let me tell you 
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Re Cascade's post, the tank in the badge is a slightly simplified image of a Pzkpfw IV, an early version with short barrel. I suspect the "large tank" you are thinking about was the Pzkpfw Maus. There was also a large tank called the E100. Both were only in uncompleted prototype forms by the end of the war.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"gesetzl gesch' is an abbreviation for gesetzlich geschutzt which means legally protected or patented as we would say.
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United Kingdom
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Hi there, this was obviously not issued this way. And neither would a soldier have done this during the period. This kind of thing occurs all the time when people try to pimp up items with no value. The German bits on it look okay, an army eagle and a peaked cap insignia. By the way, the medal that was posted here a few days ago and then removed as it was against the rules, was a fake.
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Valued Member
Germany
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The razor looks good. 'D.R. Patent' means 'Deutsches-Reichs-Patent', patented in the German Empire.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks jon. That's what I was afraid of. I might have a couple more items for your inspection. You da man when it comes to ww2 German items
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