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Valued Member
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I am not happy with the treated, but it is still old 
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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It is a nice coin, and a scarce type too. Interesting comment about 'betun de Judea'. Never heard of it. I have one or two coins with a similar look, maybe they were similarly treated. We seem to have similar tastes in Roman Bronzes! - here is my example of the same type. It has a few corrosion spots which need treatment, but otherwise nice portrait.  
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Valued Member
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What a great coin thanks 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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those are both nice lucius verus coins....i don't have any of this guy.
he's on my list.
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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really nice, I only have a sestertius of him, a common type
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Valued Member
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Thanks all, you have make a nice topic 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Great minds" and all that stuff Very nice coin and I fully understand the appeal ! I will join in the show me yours show This one I have is rather worn down a bit But in a rather pleasing sort of way ........ The patina though is superb and for that reason makes it one of my favorites. Guaranteed to make your Armenian friends hyperventilate too !  
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Valued Member
Canada
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Nice, I still need to get a 1st or 2nd century sestertius
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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This is an image of a bottle of "Betún de Judea" with a translation to english... 
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Thank you, Athalbert. It looks like shoe polish for coins! Not sure I would want that on my coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Another reason I believe it important to bathe a coin in acetone for a few hours when they come in the door !
While any bare metal (excepting gold) will tarnish and in fact I believe it to be altogether proper to darken an over cleaned coin surface, the idea of "painting" on a new finish is definitely a line which I will not cross. Soaking in olive oil or wrapping in news print for a period of time are rather innocuous compared to ........ asphalt ? Even the use of 'liver of sulphur' on bronze might be considered benign compared to 'repaving' a new finish !
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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BTW
GERMANICVS ...... I see some green spots that appear to be associated with the 'reddish' encrustations on your sestertius. I have a Caracalla which had similar areas of hard reddish encrustaions which I hesitated to do anything about. After being put away for nearly one year I noted that the green had in fact become active and was dissolving the red spots as well as making inroads on the bronze. Immediate treatment is advisable !
BD will leave large scars unless nipped in the bud !
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Valued Member
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I like the burst of Lucius verus, I could not find any type, with that burst  i am not happy,  with the polish
Edited by imperator 08/31/2015 08:29 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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FR would you be willing to start a new thread and tell us how you treat Bronze Disease? Toothpick and distilled water? Sodium sesquicarbonate? Something in between?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am less expert at the topic than you might think ! My brother (MARCVS OBLIVIVS) is my go to guy for BD. I went looking for pics of my Caracalla to show the results of his treatment. The coin after a year in 'storage' showed obvious signs of fuzzy green nodules forming in association with orange encrustations which clung tenaciously to the coin. Being one of my favorite sestertii I immediately handed it over for the 'cure' ! The previously mentioned orange stuff had been cited by several experts as a removable blemish. Fearing for the worst I had hesitated (unless you know for sure ........ Always hesitate !) to do anything. The 'cure' stripped away much of the dark patina and left the coin looking less than it had been but I believe the good Doctor in this case had opted for a more radical regime of baths. The fear often is that once the BD penetrates into a coin the cancer may spread unobserved below the surface. Once you reach a certain point (stage 4 !) the surfaces will simply crumble if treatment is made. I have an earlier pic which shows the nodules in the early stages. As the green specs did not appear to be soft I hesitated to do anything irreversible. Once the growth became obvious we erred on the side of caution and extirpated (love that word) the tumours. The first image shows the malignancy in a later stage The second was where I had been hoping for the best and probably was in denial about the terminal prognosis given by two 'learned gentlemen'  
Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS 09/05/2015 12:30 pm
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