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Thoughts On Dark Toned Coins

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 Posted 08/31/2015  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list
The coin is AU50 , not a really high grade but considering it's a better date Barber dime ..
As many of you mentioned , I also like toned coins and most of what I own has a bit of color ..
I guess what got me was I wasn't expecting it to be so dark , it is a little darker than it appears in the photos .. I guess I was more or less conserned that it possibly got by on anacs as coins do from time to time with all grading company's.
I'd say you guys are right ! It's probley with in anacs standard and I believe them to be a top company as most coins I've purchased in their slabs in my opinion are about right , just never seeing one this dark in hand made me question it ..
I really do appreciate everyone's quick response and for the reassurance !!
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 Posted 08/31/2015  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
From a photographic standpoint, it's pretty easy to wash out dark toning. As a result, I couldn't necessarily hold it against the seller. Either way, when one contemplates the coal-burning world into which this coin was born, such color is not necessarily of concern to surface originality and is indeed an optimistic sign.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list
I just tried to search this coin on anacs website but nothing came back , I though that was pretty weird.
I have several anacs coins and this slab look the same as the rest so I'm not sure what going on .. I've got a little better photo of the coin along with the listing photo but I can't figure out how to post photos along with a reply.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I think pretty toning beats "original" color every time, but on copper, it's usually a negative from a price standpoint.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
dark and crusty is what I say
i only like blast white on merc dimes and Washington quarters
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 Posted 08/31/2015  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Do you REALLY think they're original in blast white?
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 Posted 08/31/2015  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Some blast white coins are original - look at all (most) of the GSA slabbed Morgan dollars that were pulled right out of bags
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 Posted 08/31/2015  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I collect both toners and un-toned coins. No need to limit yourself to one or the other.

These two 1948 Roosevelt dimes are both graded MS67FT by PCGS:

(Toned)

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(White)

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Some people would prefer one surface over the other, but I settled for buying both

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 Posted 09/01/2015  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list
If given the option on silver coins I will get the BU type without a tone. If toning does not affect price or grade then it is just personal preference.
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 Posted 09/01/2015  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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dark and crusty is what I say
Says the one with the appropriate avatar!
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 Posted 09/01/2015  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list
Thanks for posting everyone !!
What I was really trying to get at with this post was everyone's view on really dark toning and at what point has it progressed to far !!
That was my original concern with the coin in my first post .. None the less I appreciate everyone's opinions and for posting.
Since the coin in question has a very dark patina I was wondering at what point will TPGs consider a really dark coin to be a details or problem coin? As I had mentioned in my first post this coin is one of the darkest I've seen in a problem free holder from one of the top company's.
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 Posted 09/01/2015  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
A TPG designating "environmental damage" on a coin happens. You'd want to search auction archives on Heritage and just look and look until you locate and see enough examples. High Res imagery on that sight is second-to-none and you can get a heckuva education if you put the time in.

Here is a coin that could have gone either way when I picked it up raw for only $80 on ebay. Instead, PCGS found in its favor and gave it an EF40.

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 Posted 09/01/2015  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
This coin wasn't too dark to pull a very controversial MS67 full grade:

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This one is MS65 full grade, and equally likely to start a fight as the first:

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 Posted 09/02/2015  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list
Really nice coins guys , so I guess there is a pretty fine line when it comes to TPG labeling a coin as environmental damaged or problem free ..
I would guess that with each company that line would differ a bit similar to the difference in their grading standards ..
Even though the coin is a little darker than I normally go for I still like the coin and I feel like I got it for a good price ..
I've watch a couple AU 50 1903o dimes sell at auction in the 80 dollar range this past month and when the opportunity to buy one for 50 came along I felt Id be a fool to pass on it ..

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 Posted 09/02/2015  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
@paralyse - wow! great looking quarters! I love how the paper from those early 50's mint sets laid that gorgeous tone on those coins.

@coinguy - you got a great deal for $50 IMO on that dime. Enjoy it for many years to come!
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