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Presidential Dollar Roll Buyers?

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 Posted 09/03/2015  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I do not buy the rolls. I only get the proofs since I cannot see the edge when they are in an album. However, if I did collect the business strikes, I would buy them singly from a coin dealer.
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 Posted 09/03/2015  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list
jbuck, thanks for responding. I think the proofs are more attractive and what I would call "collectible", but when the circulation experiment first started in 2007 I was all on board. I really wanted the things to work. I'd get 3 rolls at the bank when they came out, break and spend one right away and throw the others in the safe for later or for the kids. I kept doing that until the Fed/Mint announced they would no longer be issuing new presidents.

Lately, though, I've started buying rolls from the mint to sell (cheap) as singles or PD pairs at coin shows thinking the latest Presidents would be more familiar and something that local browsers might pick up, even if they weren't small dollar enthusiasts. And I have rolls for the kids or grand-kids when I do my own Big Melt.

The "crap" that's on the latest presidentials isn't attractive, doesn't add character, and just shouldn't be there. Even a warm water soak with a drop of soap doesn't remove the gunk. I'm not a cleaner, but if there's a simple way to take off this surface spotting, I'm all ears.
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 Posted 09/03/2015  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iontyre to your friends list
I have bought rolls of Kennedy halfs, and the quality on those is mostly pretty bad too, especially the Philly issues.
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 Posted 09/03/2015  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list
I agree with Jbuck... dealer is the route to go.
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 Posted 09/03/2015  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I started getting them from circulation as well, but realized that they needed to be pulled quick. These coins do not hold up well in circulation. Unlike red cents, which turn a nice chocolate brown, these coins start to resemble baby puke after just a few transactions.
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 Posted 09/05/2015  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list

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I started getting them from circulation as well, but realized that they needed to be pulled quick. These coins do not hold up well in circulation. Unlike red cents, which turn a nice chocolate brown, these coins start to resemble baby puke after just a few transactions.


- Do you guys think these Presidential dollars would have more appeal if they were "silver colored" Cu-Ni? I wonder how these coins would have done if they had been a collector only silver dollar series.
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Do you guys think these Presidential dollars would have more appeal if they were "silver colored" Cu-Ni?


I wondered about that, too, to the point that I took a can of my daughter's silver spray paint and gave one a little touch-up . It looked better, but it also looked like a spray painted coin. Poor George.
Seriously, though, it did look better.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Do you guys think these Presidential dollars would have more appeal if they were "silver colored" Cu-Ni?
Good question. They certainly would need to be NIFC from the start to be anything other than the golden dollar. I would hate to see a repeat of the SBA-quarter confusion.


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I wonder how these coins would have done if they had been a collector only silver dollar series.
Probably better, in my opinion. While we are speculating, we should have made them full size dollars in 90% silver. I would be all over that.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list
I bought 4 rolls of unc D mint. Geo Wash 1$ coins Maybe I should take the out of wrapper, and spend the ugly ones. Or sell if saleable.

I agree of the circ. ones don't hold up good. The SBA hold up good in CU much better a lot better from 1980 than any (gold colored) circulated. Sac or Presidential

I think that the mint should change the alloys for dollar and pennies soon or you wont have collectors for them unless they do. I have seen the cents really get ugly within 1-3 years in circ. HMHO.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list
Maybe like Canada does with some coloring or noticeable ID. Beside put the date and info on the Obverse and Not on the Edge.
Any market on the Geo 1$ w/o the lettering
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 Posted 09/06/2015  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list
I'm surprised to hear that you can get GeoWashington rolls from the mint. Or did you get them way back then? The Washingtons (Presidential small Dollars) that I got back in 2007 are fine. They are still fine. If they haven't been through circulation, they're still fine. In fact, earlier this morning I got out some small dollar Air-tites and put one JFK and one Thomas Jefferson in capsules for comparison. The 2007 coin looks great, shiny and "gold". The 2015 coin looks drab, dull, smeared and spotty. I don't think they have changed the composition of the outside layer. Something has changed in the minting or storage process, though, and I'd really like to know what it is!

Yes, there is a market for pres dollars without rim engraving, but others here know a lot more that I know on that topic. You can only tell that by breaking your rolls and checking.

This is getting long winded so I'll throw it back out to the community. Any insight here is welcom!
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 Posted 09/06/2015  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list
I bought them from my bank then and 4 Wa State Quarter rolls both with the names on the rolls from the mint
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 Posted 09/06/2015  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add welder to your friends list
I have only bought a few Presidential dollar rolls. Mainly for the man on the coin and not for a set or series.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 831Mani to your friends list
I have 2 rolls of (p-d) G.W I got from the mint way back in '07 shld I open them and inspected the quality?
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 Posted 09/07/2015  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list
831Mani: I think your rolls are safe (IMO). I'm seeing problems only in the "circulation strikes" that were never released for circulation.

I just resumed getting rolls this year. Anybody have rolls earlier than 2015 in black and white paper that have obvious spots and smears that shouldn't be on uncirculated coins? I've been going through a roll (OBW)of 1964 LM cents that look fantastic! 2015 dollars , not so good.
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