Cascade, that is why I said study up on numismatics. It isn't just about collecting coins, but say I find a 20 rappen in a box of nickels I an CRHing. What the heck is a 20 rappen? I then go look it up, learn a bit about the country that issued it, learn a bit about the world economy at the time it was issued. Learn about other countries denominations, etc, and so on.
I am not likely to just go read about Switzerland's coinage just for the sake of reading about it as I have no connection to it until I found that 1974 20 rappen coin in my CRH box of nickels.
In CRH it isn't about making profit, or just hoarding coins for many, it is the numismatic value also. I have acquired coins for 19 countries other than the USA in my CRHing and enjoy the tidbits of info I find on other coins as well as the joy of finding something like the interesting design on the Greek 10 drachmes from 1984 with an atom on it. AN ATOM! or the 1943 French franc coin with a battle axe made of aluminum. A BATTLE AXE! ON A COIN! not a dead guy and an eagle...
Not sure what you are doing to this poor Morgan you speak of, but I keep mine in the 20th Century Type folder and a jeweler baggy so I can take one out and flip it occasionally to enjoy the feel of it and look at it.
When asked by someone "what's your coin collection worth" I told them "The H if I know. I don't collect them to put a price on them, I collect them because I intend to keep them until I die."
The intrinsic value is greater than any monetary price you could place on ANY of my coins. Bare minimum I would take for 1 of my 2009-P Jefferson nickels in circulated condition would be about $1 million. That is how a coin collector values their coins, not a coin/metals speculator.
I have looked up this VAM before on here, and I see a lot of words and a lot of pictures and no short summary. a term should have a definition not a Clancy novel to explain it.
Shadz, why have your recent postings been so snide and snarky that they're bordering on rude. Have you always been this way or am I just noticing now? Come on man, pills don't act this way!
GIGO, Cascade. Stands for Garbage In, Garbage Out. been a lot of annoying garbage on here lately, some people telling others how to collect, and its just gone over the line for me. People have forgotten why coin collecting began. Not coin hoarding like pirates, kings ripping off people for tax money, etc. Coin Collecting, was something not for the rich. Money collecting was for the rich. Now it seems something as simple as coin collecting is filled with the ONETRUEWAYISM of just about every other hobby, where people are hellbent on telling others they are doing it wrong. Let people enjoy their thing and go enjoy yours, I say.
Coin Collecting began when the common man found that he too could have something lasting and nice to have for his lifetime that he could afford. EVERYONE could share in it. Whitman and others starting making collection archive products because the common man was doing it, not because there needed museum archival quality product for the rich that could go buy every coin they ever wanted. Dansco obviously came later, but you lok at most products for collecting sets and are they the cabinets like in the "Supplies" forum that are expensive in and of themselves? No, because they weren't made for Steve Martin so Adam Baldwin could rob him of his coins in that little town, they were made and priced for lower income people to enjoy a simply hobby. One they could do with their pocket change.
Not everyone is rich enough to go buy 1000 Morgans to look for varieties. Heck some people can't even get bag of large dollars! Others can't even get rolls and only have what change comes to their pockets as a source to collect from.
So the way these people with lesser options to acquire coins for collections because they cannot afford to just buy 3 of everything the US Mint offers in proof uncirculated quality, has highly offended me! People collect what they want/can, how they can, for the reasons they collect. Why can that not just be accepted by everyone? Why must it be done the ONETRUEWAY?
If you don't like how someone else collects do you think them a lesser collector? Do you think they don't have a right to collect coins because they don't have the funds to do it the "rich persons" way? Can these people just not say "Hey, those people are enjoying themselves and not hurting me; so maybe I should just move on and keep my mouth shut?" Or is it as I surmised earlier, that with less roll-hunters then the coin dealers would have higher profits because they would be the ONLY resource for people to get coins unless they have enormous amounts of pocket change to sort through? That is after all roll-hunting is. Some roll-hunting is doing harm, but not all.
Maybe a sticky in the forum about Coin Roll Hunting Ethics, would help be a place to suss out what actions are the problem and what are not and help curtail bad habits of roll hunters that visit here so that it works better for all, INCLUDING the banks?
Some people have just gone over a line being unfriendly, let alone "family friendly" that makes me fear for the future of coin collecting in general. Imagine if these attitudes are held and expressed OUTSIDE of these forums. Do dealers tell people they shouldn't check pocket change? Is this even ethical for the dealer to do? Who is benefiting more the dealer or the coin collectors?
Maybe, just maybe, being more open and receptive to other types of collectors of your chosen collection item, might strengthen the hobby. While the ONETRUEWAYISM can only serve to destroy it.
Shadz, I like your passion! One thing, not saying the only thing I agree on is why some people seem to like to comment on CRHing being a waste of time. How can a hobby be a waste of time?.
I have a washer, a button, A clip piece from a pen, a Mickey big mouth pull tab, and etc. in 2X2s in my collection. That's one of my hobbies, driving them batty some day. The one that looks like it has diamonds in it, has diamonds in it.
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