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Aint It Funny (Dollar Coins)

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 Posted 11/01/2015  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
I use cash. I personally have no reason to use CCs etc. But I don't spend much money anyway. If I were in a large city it would be different I am sure.



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The alternative would be to revalue the dollar and that will never happen...

That depends on whether or not someone in power could make a bundle for themselves over it or not.

On a serous note, I personally don't see why revaluing cannot be done vs. just making higher denomination coins. In fact I would think the mint would lobby for devaluation b/c it would mean a redesign of all denominations and therefore they get to make more profit.

But... this is all speculation on my part. I admit to not understanding the mechanics & politics of it all.
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 Posted 11/01/2015  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
Mexico revalued, so why can't we?
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 Posted 11/02/2015  12:03 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
If the reason for you guys still having the cent is partly because people like good old lincoln, why not just put him on another denomination and scrap the cent. That way you don't have the cent and you still have lincoln. This is just my opinion since I hear alot how they don't scrap the cent cause of lincoln.
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 Posted 11/02/2015  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list
Revaluing the US dollar would make coins a more viable token of commerce, harkening back to the days of actual usability instead of a means to make change.

This is however not a realistic or necessary possibility. The chaos it would cause worldwide would be monumental and not worth the hassle. Remember that the US Dollar is the top currency worldwide and almost every other currency depends on it. Changing the math would create an uproar worldwide, the likes of which have never been seen before, even with the creation of the Euro.

What will work would be the elimination of smaller denominations and eventual creation of larger denominations to replace bills in smaller amounts. We have experienced the former already with the elimination of the half-cent.
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 Posted 11/02/2015  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Revaluing the dollar is unnecessary and will never happen unless some special interest can fund the lobby and get rich from it.


Instead, just tell your rep about the Jbuck plan!


Kill the cent.

Kill the nickel.

Dime is the new "cent."

Kill the quarter when ATB ends. Yes, end it; do not go for round two unless it is NIFC.

Half Dollar is the new "nickel." Optional: new size, colour, shape.

Kill the one dollar note. One dollar coin is the new "dime."

Kill the two dollar note. Introduce two dollar coin with Jefferson.

Kill the five dollar note. Introduce five dollar coin with Lincoln.

Ten dollar note is the new "one dollar note."


Easy-peasy.
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 Posted 11/03/2015  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
@n9jig
I can see what you are saying, but am not sure about whether it would cause all the confusion.
The reason being b/c the world had to adjust (and easily did) when we went from out old looking bills with small portraits to the new "Monopoly Money" (as I heard people calling it when it debuted.
If new issues with different appearance were made (finally get some color on the bills), I am not sure it would cause chaos.
A new 1.00 would be worth an old 5.00, etc.

I think, from traveling, that US currency is mainly what circulates in other countries. So the new coins would not be as big an issue either.

But again, I am no business major either. I might be missing something.

@jbuck
and so the price of Pepsi goes up to 5.00 a glass

Just think, if we devalued, it could be a nickel again
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 Posted 11/03/2015  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Just think, if we devalued, it could be a nickel again


I can only barely remember when it was a dime. Nickel pop was before my time.
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 Posted 11/03/2015  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Mine too actually I think I remember a dime. I definitely remember .15 when I used to restock the machine at my grandfather's laundromats and get the change out (ah... the old sound of Mercs and silver Roosies in the change holder!).
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 Posted 11/03/2015  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I seem to remember it changing from $0.10 to $0.15 and my mom making a fuss, or was it when the payphones went from $0.10 to $0.25.

Now we wait for the first YN to ask, "What is a payphone?"

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 Posted 11/04/2015  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list
As a kid I remember buying bottles of pop for a nickle. On special occasions Mom would give us a dollar and we would go to McD's and get a burger fries and a shake for two of us... Those days are done.

Sure, we could bring those back for nostalgia and revalue the dollar, thus making coins viable for purchases again. It would be a silly gesture and probably cause real purchasing power to decline dramatically. By just shifting the coins upward to follow the natural procession of value things remain more stable. Eliminate lower value coins and add higher value coins, replacing lower value bills.

Eventually we are going to be a cashless society anyway so it is easier to get there gradually by value shifting.
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 Posted 11/04/2015  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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By just shifting the coins upward to follow the natural procession of value things remain more stable. Eliminate lower value coins and add higher value coins, replacing lower value bills.
Agreed, a much easier and seamless process.


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Eventually we are going to be a cashless society anyway so it is easier to get there gradually by value shifting.
Like it or not, this is true.
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 Posted 11/04/2015  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list

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By just shifting the coins upward to follow the natural procession of value things remain more stable. Eliminate lower value coins and add higher value coins, replacing lower value bills.


Seeking to be more educated, ... why are things more stable if this is followed? I would like to see the data on this as the only thing I have to go on at present is what happened in Canada. Prices overall went up on everything b/c the forcing of the Loonie on the public also had the effect that their dollar became "just pocket change." Prices were raised accordingly. Consumers started having to pay more for everything. And now, as I was told last June when visiting and bringing this up with my many friends, their dollar is seen as pretty much valueless.

I have nothing to back it up with, but my opinion (note that word) is that the opposite psychological effect of having a dollar be "worth something" again would not induce an immediate price raise in things.
Speculation only from studying the human creature

Are there studies available on devaluation bringin more stability? Or is all of this we are talking about speculation (well the Canada and Loonie part is not)? It is interesting to me.



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 Posted 11/04/2015  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list

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Now we wait for the first YN to ask, "What is a payphone?

Pay phone? Oh, you mean the giant, stationary dumb phones they talk about in history class!
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 Posted 11/04/2015  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list
the funny thing about a payphone ya never had a dropped call because of signal
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 Posted 11/05/2015  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Seeking to be more educated, ... why are things more stable if this is followed? I would like to see the data on this as the only thing I have to go on at present is what happened in Canada. Prices overall went up on everything b/c the forcing of the Loonie on the public also had the effect that their dollar became "just pocket change." Prices were raised accordingly.
Prices have already gone up! Way up!

Were we not just reminiscing about nickel and dime soda (pop)?

I was just talking to a guy on the phone and he was telling me how his father would give him $1.50 to go to the movies with his girlfriend. That $1.50 paid for both tickets and snacks.

It is time for us to say goodbye to the cent and nickel.

It is time to replace fragile and highly used low denomination notes with much longer lasting coins.


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the funny thing about a payphone ya never had a dropped call because of signal
Nope, they were usually just out of service because some idiot vandal cut the cord.
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