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A very good friend (Tim), and also one of the nicest guys you have yet to meet!!
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Very nice examples!! I also like the 1893 Here are four different DP9 I am also looking for the one on page 309 Enjoy     Boy them Vickies are fun to collect!! MG Edited by viper
12/02/2015 11:55 am
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Yes SPP that's the toughest one and not many have been found.
Viper nice re-punches you have and the last one looks like it's been triple punched. I have ones similar to the ones you've shown I'll have to check closer and see which one.
You should try and list the markers for each one so others can search for them also.
Back to the coin in the OP I will show the obverse of the coin and add some other information that will make this obverse die even more desirable and give added cause to the search.
I've still got to get the proper pictures of the obverse which I'm not that good at.
Cheers, Bill
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But my re-punched 3 is not listed  maybe they didn't know about it   Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Here are the pictures of the obverse for the coin in the OP. I've included one of the OP pictures for clarity This obverse was used with at least two different reverse dies with this coin being the second reverse used. I have found the first reverse die used with this obverse to be very difficult to find but if you do find one you'll be pleasantly surprised when you inspect the date. The first reverse has perhaps the most significantly re-punched three eight's you'll find on any 1888. I have only two of this die pair and I've searched for years and well over 1000 coins The last picture is of the Eight's from the first reverse used.  Second Reverse  Obverse picture associated with second reverse  Close-up of Die Crack  Three Eight's from first reverse. So in conclusion if you can find an 1888 with this same die crack on the obverse you will be finding either the coin shown on Page 324 of the 2011 Charlton cat. or if you have some very good luck you'll find one with the first reverse I have found two with the pronounced offset on one there's no die crack (earlier die state) and the other has the die crack at the "C" in Canada just not as well developed. I'd be very interested and very thankfull for pictures of any coin found with this obverse and if it's possible for those that take the time to check to list hear how many coins were searched and how many you found. Cheers, Bill |
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Here is one with the heavy 8 repunched... I do have more ....and I will look at my old files photos..    ..and I really don't know where this 1888 fits..   . . Edited by DEVLEC
12/03/2015 9:48 pm
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Canada
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Yes Devlec your first coin is one from the first reverse die used with this obverse and I've found it very difficult to find.... your coin is in an earlier die state.
I have one in this die state also, the obverse die will later develop a die crack just after the "C" in Canada.
It's hard to tell from the picture if a crack has started yet. Take a close look at the coin in this area
It's really still quite evident that all the eight's were re-punched even in this well worn condition.
I'm quite surprised you found one so quickly. How many did you look through?
Congrats! To me it's a keeper in all conditions.
Your second coin is from a very large group of 1888's that had a full repaired serif on the "N" in Regina the "D" in Canada but the "D" in Dei left with just a short stud. The vast majority of 1888's are similar to your second coin including the two with the tripled eights that I've shown.
Cheers, Bill
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New Zealand
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this 1 has a minor 888 and no die crack by C   Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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I'm quite surprised you found one so quickly. Thanks for the added facts Bill but I was just looking through photos..and still will have to reread your notes to better understand what's so important here..(I'm still not sure) ... now I will have to check the other 88's also. ..and maybe some better photos also.. |
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gidjit, I like your 88s, I keep looking for more. 
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[quote]understand what's so important here..(I'm still not sure)/quote]
I've probably made this more confusing then it had to be by introducing the other reverse associated with the same Obverse as the coin on page 324.
What I was originally trying to do was just show the markers for those that are trying to match the coins from the back of the 2011 Charlton.
I don't think there's any real importance to the coin on page 324 other then it's the coin they chose for the book. There are many 1888's with all three eights re-punched and several are better then the coin featured.
The coin that fourmick has shown is a better example of re-punched eights.
The coin that's in the book will have an obverse die crack at the "C" in Canada the die crack developed while the first reverse was still in use.
This would mean if there's no die crack at the "C" then it's not the same coin as in the book.
With the coins I've found matching page 324 they all have the die crack at leaf two on the reverse as shown in Charlton but I would assume you could find an early die state with no D/C on the reverse but it would still have the obverse die crack.
gidjit the two you have shown appear to be correct for the first obverse, the last eight not shown in your close-up pictures should have doubling from the bottom of the eight.
There may also look for a small die crack at leaf #7 near the top of the leaf I can't tell from these pictures if it's there.
Have a very close look at the "C" in Canada on the obverse, it could have the die crack also as it developed while the first reverse was still in use but it would be in it's early formation and may be faint.
Cheers, Bill
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...but I would assume you could find an early die state with no D/C on the reverse but it would still have the obverse die crack. Here is that faint d/c to the right of the C in Canada..from my 2nd greenish cent.. ..but I still have to find the other 1888..   |
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Well, I'm sorry to say that I have them all (or HAD because there are a few that I can't find after repacking stuff after a flood). I also co-wrote the 2o11 variety section and many of the coins pictured are mine. Some of my friends on this board have been lucky enough to get some of my 'doubles' when I've been in a good mood. I've started many a person on the Vicky hunts in my nearly 20 years on these boards (previously under a different handle).
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I've started many a person on the Vicky hunts in my nearly 20 years on these boards (previously under a different handle). I will agree to that being 1 of many  Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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