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 Posted 12/18/2015  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

You have a late stage brockage error, nice find and worth ~$15-20

A brockage is created when a struck coin fails to eject from the coining chamber and adheres to one of the dies, the stuck coin is known as a die cap. The die cap then acts as a new die, transferring an incuse mirror image to the next planchet as it is struck- this coin is known as a mirror brockage because the first few strikes produce perfect incuse mirror images. As the die cap continues to strike more coins, the original design expands and weakens as seen on your coin. As the strikes continue, the detail of the die cap is obliterated and you can no longer see the Memorial design. At that point, the die cap is so thin and stretched out that the original die detail begins to show through again, leaving a weak blurry Lincoln bust. Eventually, the die cap falls away or disintegrates and the dies resume striking normal coins.

To be clear, a brockage error must show at least traces of the design from the die cap. Once those design traces disappear, the resultant coin would be a struck-through die cap error.
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12/18/2015 6:45 pm
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 Posted 12/18/2015  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nyfireman to your friends list
I would agree to the Magicians coin except that the two tails are at a 90 degree angle to each other
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 Posted 12/18/2015  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list
the weight would dispel the Magicians coin, if it is pre 82 it should be 3.1g, if its newer it would be 2.5g, if it was a Magicians coin, then it would be a lot lighter.
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 Posted 12/18/2015  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list
Judging by the reverse should weight approx. 2.5g. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 12/18/2015  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
I agree that it's a brockage. If you look at the EPU, the legend is backwards, eliminating the possibility of a struck-through capped die or a Magician's coin.
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 Posted 12/18/2015  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list
Glossary - brockage
A brockage is a Mint error, an early capped die impression where a sharp incused image has been left on the next coin fed into the coining chamber. Most brockages are partial; full brockages are rare and the most desirable form of the error.
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12/18/2015 9:38 pm
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 Posted 12/18/2015  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nyfireman to your friends list
Is this a partial or full since I'm very new to this
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 Posted 12/18/2015  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
From what I've learned here and reading and waiting to find one of my own before I have to purchase I agree with biokemist 100% great find!
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 Posted 12/19/2015  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
Very nice find!
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 Posted 12/19/2015  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list

Quote:
Is this a partial or full since I'm very new to this

Full.
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 Posted 12/19/2015  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
It's a full, mid-stage brockage. Nice find.
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 Posted 12/19/2015  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list
Mike hit the nail on the head.
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 Posted 12/19/2015  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nyfireman to your friends list
Anyone know if a place to sell it online other then ebay. Not a fan of ebay
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 Posted 12/19/2015  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
Personally I'd hold on to it.
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 Posted 02/01/2016  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nyfireman to your friends list
i have been researching this for a couple of weeks now most of the full brockages I have seen are mirror image. can anyone explain why the one memorial is almost at a 90 degree angle to the other ?
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