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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I am at a loss on this one. if it was drilled, I would have expected the ring to be on the opposite of where the bit started, that is not the case here. And I don't really have an alternate theory on how this could have happened. An interesting piece, I would assume PMD, unless another coin appears with the same mark. I can't even think of what the O is from, assuming it was punched at the mint. Thanks for sharing. |
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Canada
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take 2 toothpicks of equal length, stand one in the hole and one on the field, put a horizontal pencil mark across the two with a very pointed pencil and see if the heights are different. Unless you have a set of calipers that can measure the 2 areas. If they are the same then drilling is out of the question as no metal was displaced to create the circle. Cool lookin coin btw.
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
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 Interesting ******  Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Somebody had a girlfriend named Deb.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Assuming it was punched into the working die, The punch would have been an "I" with the canker/circle off to the side. Punches are precise instruments, takes much engineering, similar to making a die, they go through their own tempering process, serious business. So an "I" punch with a canker off to the side is virtually impossible.
Also, we must remember, everything raised on a coin is incused in the die. Therefore the middle of that canker was raised on the die. It could not have been a separate punch otherwise, there would be no gap in the letter "I" level with the coin field. Again, envision the die, the "I" though incused on the die would have a raised area inside, this means it had to be one punch that included the letter "i" and the canker.
It is a heck of a riddle, but I really don't think it's made through the minting process. Mints are not into making weird punches everyonce in awhile to make for head scratchers. This was struck at the heaton mint, commissioned by the crown, they carried out the coining process, messing around wasn't an option, especially to create a weird punch of no functional merit. Jmho.
Edited by Alan
01/19/2016 01:46 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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PMD ! The coin was struck with a sharp piece of hardened steel. Stress cracks were created at 11, 2 and 3 o'clock once the coin was punched. It wouldn't really take that strong of a hit to cause an imprint from the hardened steel as the PSI on such a fine point would be incredible. There may have been some slight flattening on the reverse however over time it would look exactly as illustrated in the pictures. I believe that whoever did this, did not intentionally try to split the "I", it just happened by chance. As stated, nice conversation piece.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Here are a few small drill bits or a center punch that could possibly do that job well. ..and then add a bit of time into the mix ..and Voila..!! .. This one is not rocket science to me ...but still a cool effect for us to ponder here.. The smallest drill here is still much too small for that start of a hole in that cent. A dull drill would also be very good and cause a mushroom effect. ..my 2c..   |
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Canada
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Nice drill bits but did you try one..lol   |
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Absolutely PMD - the "hole" is deeper than the fields. Bear in mind that the fields are the highest points on the dies, so there would have to be raised device on the die itself (which is not possible). Bear in mind that the metal (bronze) is quite malleable, and this is no different than deformed letters "moved" around by coin rolling machines.  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Here's darn near an exact match I just did with a finishing nail just add some wear.  |
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United States
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I'm sticking with my theory that someone tried to turn the I into a crude "b". Look at how much metal was moved and the tool marks. I bet it could be done with the tip of a sharp knife and maybe a magnifying glass. Girlfriend named Deb. Perhaps the final version looked better.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Nice drill bits but did you try one..lol That's illegal... |
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Seriously though this has been a truly interesting thread and I'm sure there is more to come if not here then in the other private thread Okiecoiner mentioned. Thanks for posting it here too Graval. Kbbpll Quote:
had a girlfriend named Deb.  How poor ole Victorba no one ever dances with her..lol  Edited by Alexer
01/19/2016 6:17 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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That's not the exact effect, but is fair to say it can be duplicated to some reasonable degree and therefore it's highly unlikely the posters coin was struck as such.
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