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1967 Cougar Thin Planchet

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 Posted 01/18/2016  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Something wrong with this one..looks like a fake error to me.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tlutz to your friends list
Here's a bit better side veiw

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 Posted 01/18/2016  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
If you had really accurate callipers you could check the thickness versus a standard coin at one of the undamaged parts to see if the planchet is actually thin or if some of the planchet has perhaps been shaved away. Looks like damage to me. I doubt it was worth someone's time to try to shave it down to recover some "free"silver, but that has been practice from time to time in history.
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 Posted 01/19/2016  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
From what I can see from these images is it looks like the edges of the coin have been filed down or squished.
In the side on image the coin looks convex that makes me think this

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 Posted 01/19/2016  09:12 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
First of all, to CCF

I am absolutely convinced that this is a legit strike on an underweight (thin) planchet. That region on the Queen is where it is almost always weakly struck, the the dish-shaped fields near the rim would be very hard to reproduce - it is struck with full collar, but there was not enough metal to nicely form the rim. A normal silver 25c is 5.83 grams, 3.5 grams is seriously underweight.

It is rare (first one I have seen), but error values are all about the eye-appeal and wow factor, so you are looking at about a CAN$75 error.
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 Posted 01/19/2016  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
I'll buy that..Good one SPP.
Congrats Tlutz
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 Posted 01/19/2016  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
If legit I believe 75.00 is no where near the value of this coin. Hens teeth. Not all error collectors need bright and shiny like SPP. LOL
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 Posted 01/19/2016  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Every error is unique, and therefore rare. That is not what determines the value in error coins. Popularity (e.g., coinage axis) and wow factor (e.g. die caps, off-metals, bonded clusters) do. Here is an example: I have two thin planchet nickel dollars, one is expensive just because it is the 1982 Constitution (popularity) even though several exist - while the other one was 1/10 the price (the wow factor is just not there), despite probably being unique.

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/26645606

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/30921294
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 Posted 01/19/2016  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M_d_in_guy to your friends list
I can see what you mean about it being a genuine after comparing to your two examples. I agree for sure with this coin the op posted being on a thin planchet.
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 Posted 01/19/2016  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list
It looks legitimate to me. One sold at the 2008 CNA auction for $250 + the juice. Another one I sold in 2009 but I have no record of what that one went for, somewhere in the neighbourhood of $200 I think.


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 Posted 01/19/2016  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tlutz to your friends list
Appreciate all the information. It is nice to have some information on this coin, it was sitting around for a while and I wasn't to sure what it was all about
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 Posted 01/20/2016  09:08 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Thanks for that extra information Scissel... I stand corrected on my value estimates. It would be interesting to know if the known thin planchets are all from the same run (that is, .500 or .800 silver). Given its scarcity, I would not be surprised if they were cut from the same strip.
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 Posted 02/15/2016  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
This one looks similar too.

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 Posted 02/15/2016  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
Interesting coin.

Are there any other known quarters that are on thin planchets.

In 1970 (Denver) they made some quarters on dime stock.
Punched the size of quarters, but using thinner dime stock.
I have two of them. They are also very light weight compared
to a regular quarter.

I am curious what you all figure out.


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 Posted 02/15/2016  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list
The coin is genuine error. It's struck on a split planchet before strike. The split side is the Queen's side as evidenced by the striations visible in the Queen's face.
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