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You Vs. ANACS 1925-S California Grading Help

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 Posted 01/21/2016  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Politely suggest that you are holding back critical information to allow us to help you ...

What was the TPG grade assigned?

The photos suggest MS something.

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 Posted 01/21/2016  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Looks 64. What were you expecting? Lovely near PL, especially the wide fields.
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 Posted 01/21/2016  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list
Looks like a solid MS65 to me.
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 Posted 01/21/2016  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list
Here is how it came back....AU53...I was very unhappy..I had it graded at MS63 at least...wanted some experts to let me know if I expected too much...I will likely resubmit to PCGS, wont be using ANACS again..Anyone can have an off day,but, what a lovely rare coin....Any ideas?.Thank you all for the replies!

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 Posted 01/21/2016  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
Maybe it's just the lighting used for your images, but as I scrolled through them my eyes saw an AU coin based mostly on the coin's reverse -- I see rub on the high points of the bear. Also, along with dave700x, I wondered about whether the coin had been polished.

Bottom line, when I got to the end of the post and saw an AU-53 grade I was not too surprised.

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 Posted 01/21/2016  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list
If you send it to PCGS or NGC be sure to let us know how they graded it.
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 Posted 01/22/2016  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list
Thank you all for the replies. Like a lot of you, I was fooled by this one too, the pictures made it tough. in hand all the lettering and designs are sharp , making me believe it was not polished.I felt that what commems noted was strike,but,his doubt about light circulation,would probably be the opinion of any TPG.He probably saved me some money! the price break for this coin looks to be MS63. My AU53 is worth about as much as an MS60! Also,i love this coin, keeping it with my PT Barnum, Grant, 1921 Illinois ect. they are all safe.
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 Posted 01/22/2016  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
It would be difficult for me to grade from the pictures, unfortunately. Perhaps it is the lighting used to expose the surface of the coin inside the plastic case. ANACS didn't have to face this disadvantage we are facing.
To my eye, it is hard to assess the surface detail of the coin itself.

Examine the coin 'in hand' for yourself, using a 10X loupe; that is what the TPGraders do.
If you do not like the grading, perhaps you could consider having it re graded by another leading TPG, perhaps by PCGS.
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 Posted 01/22/2016  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Its beautiful MS65/66 to me . Use either PCGS or NGC which is my favorite.
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 Posted 01/22/2016  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list
Here's a PCGS AU-58 on ebay. I think I'd rather have your coin.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-S-Half...AOSwAL9Ud8Xs
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 Posted 01/22/2016  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
ANACS didn't mention it, no other poster has mentioned it in this thread, but these pictures to my eye at least, suggest this coin may have been lightly polished at some time in the past.

In this regard, the lighting and the fact that the coin has been pictured under plastic, seems to hide obvious evidence of wear and very small surface marks on the coin.
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 Posted 01/22/2016  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list
If it has been cleaned, then ANACS should not have certified it as AU53.
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 Posted 01/23/2016  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list
Yes, I was hoping for MS63,but, would have been happy if they would have considered it a AU58/MS60 slider..I think it may go to PCGS for regrade..I need to review their site,but hope I could pay them to take a look,and reslab only if it goes up?
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 Posted 01/23/2016  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list
I remember reading that NGC and PCGS will only accept slabbed coins from each other. Of course my memory could be wrong, so check anyway. Plus, if that is their policy, then how did they reslab the IGC Goodacre Presentation Sacagawea $'s? Personally, I'd break it out and submit it. I wouldn't want the low grade to bias the grader.
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 Posted 03/04/2016  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add freddo30 to your friends list
I'm at AU 55 or 58 details, cleaned
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