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Help With Indian Head Cents

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 Posted 01/27/2016  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
And of course -

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 Posted 01/27/2016  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wimpy to your friends list
I was hoping for a book I could go pickup. I like books and feel that it somehow encourages my kids to put down the device and pick up a book. Maybe that's just wishful thinking. But if anyone knows of any books that could be helpful to an absolute beginner. It would be appreciated.
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 Posted 01/27/2016  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wimpy to your friends list
And thank you.
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 Posted 01/27/2016  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
You might search for US Coin grading, rather than IHC only.

I like the PCGS Photograde. Free, too. And you can always copy and paste and print if you like hard copy.

My kids and grandkids all read. I like to think that part of that is because Papa always has a book in hand. Largest room in our home is the library.
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 Posted 01/27/2016  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wimpy to your friends list
I wish we had a library. I think I'm just going to hit up the library Friday and see what I can find. I get that the internet is a tremendous resource, but I went to school to become a programmer and I just got burned out on technology. Made me feel like a zombie and still does every time I Google something.Thanks for the replies.
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 Posted 01/27/2016  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
Rick Snow, one of the foremost expert in IHCs, has a series of grading videos on his YouTube channel that should help.

Here is one of them:

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01/27/2016 10:40 pm
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 Posted 01/27/2016  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wimpy to your friends list
Heck yeah. That helps. That's awesome. But from what I can gather is that two IHCs that I found in one of my change jars could potentially be extra fine. Maybe. Lol. I need to do more research. And when do you feel a coin is worthy of sending off to get a grading?
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 Posted 01/27/2016  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
There is nothing wrong with collecting raw coins. However for a newbie buying more expensive Indian Head cents, buying raw coins without lots of knowledge, experience can have it's fair share of pitfalls. Look very closely for problem coins to avoid (cleaned, damaged, re-colored, and so on) since originality is very important to coin collectors and is to some collectors more important than having a higher grade.

For me graded coins are a must if I'm spending a few hundred bucks on a coin. The key dates of the series, like the 1877 and the 1909-S are heavily counterfeited so graded/slabbed coins are a must there for me. Grading through third party graders (PCGS, NGC) is costly, in a best case scenario perhaps you could piggy back on a local coin dealer's submission to the grading company and possibly get a better rate. ANACS might also be an option, they are a bit cheaper on their grading fees but don't quite have the reputation that the big two (PCGS & NGC) have.

Hope this helps .......
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01/27/2016 11:19 pm
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 Posted 01/27/2016  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Welcome to the CCF, Wimpy. "Loops" are as easy to come by as burgers.

Loop is spelled L-O-U-P-E. Google "loupe" ... Walmart has them.

Take your time and enjoy the CCF. Collecting Indians is a great way to start. Best wishes ...
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 Posted 01/28/2016  03:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add indian_hoarder to your friends list
Wimpy,

Welcome, I'm a new member as well starting today, but I'll gladly offer my opinion on your grading question.

Obviously it is extremely exciting to find a high grade coin. However, until you have gained enough visual experience to detect what will keep a coin from being "body bagged" (for example being scratched, cleaned, etc.) instead of slabbed when grading, hold off.

Specific to the Indian Head series, I find that the only coins worthy of getting graded under AU are the key 1877 and 1909-S, and depending on your purpose of slabbing, 1866-1872 and 1886. Most other dates really don't add much value when slabbed under AU, since even raw, they're still rather easy to find today.

If you feel you must get something slabbed that isn't a $$$ coin, get on the ANACS mailing list, they often have a promo for only $10 grading of cents. You could also consider this a good test of your grading skills ... at $10 a pop. =-)

Good luck!
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 Posted 01/28/2016  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list

If you want a book, something you can use as a reference, Snow wrote the book for the Whitman series,

A Guide Book of Flying Eagle and Indian Head cents: Complete Source for History, Grading, and Prices Paperback - February 25, 2009
by Rick Snow (Author), Q. David Bowers (Introduction), Tom DeLorey (Foreword)


You can get it from your local coin shop (LCS) or at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...r_1_2&sr=8-2

Just out of curiosity, if you're new to coins, what made you decide to start with Liberty with Feathers [ Indian Head cent] Cents?

any time!
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 Posted 01/28/2016  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfusion to your friends list
Yes, wimpy! Biedercoins recommended a great book! Rick Snow is the man on IHC!
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 Posted 01/28/2016  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wimpy to your friends list
thanks everyone. I would also like to explain something. I do not care whether the coin is valuable or not. I'm looking into grading to teach my 9 year old son so we can evaluate which ones to save in our collection. Obviously you want to find something great, and I already have. didn't think bout searching through rolls from the bank, but it has made my day.....
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 Posted 01/28/2016  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wimpy to your friends list
I am surrounded by 4 kids searching through rolls and the excitement they show when they find the oldest date/wheat/unique reverse(which seem to be only the 2009 cents?). this is what I was hoping for. no IHC's but when they find their birth years they think it's awesome. especially when it's "like gold". lol. We may end up collecting Canadian Cents also after tonight
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 Posted 01/28/2016  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wimpy to your friends list
@biedercoins. what got me interested was that after almost spending a 1857 quarter, I went through one of my change jars and found a couple of IHCs and my 9 year old chose those out of the Spanish silver, Two Cent Piece and the large cents as to what we would make as our focal point for our new hobby. lol
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