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this is the message I sent. "The coin was advertised to be an 1893 CC Morgan dollar. You Have misrepresented a known counterfeit coin to be authentic. Please refund my purchase price plus shipping. Your coin will be turned over to NCIC they will decide if further legal action will be required." |
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Was it from Etsy? I know a seller on there that sells those plus other fakes, I almost bought a California commemorative and it was in red velvet and a pic with a scale too. I reported them |
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United States
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I posted about them the other day. That's the same seller. I paid for the coin found out it was fake from pics and they refunded my money, after I sent a message saying I would report them. I reported them to Etsy but it doesn't do any good obviously. The sad thing is if you look one guy purchased allot of coins from them, probably doesn't know they are fake. Edited by Justinwd
02/16/2016 9:24 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Report them, get your money back, don't shop with them again, and tell people to stay away from them. Simple.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'm glad you found out the truth so quickly. I didn't think it looked good, but it's great to have this forum to help with such questions.
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I received the coin today. These Counterfeiters are good. The coin weight is perfect, Non-magnetic, and SG is correct.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sounds like a tungsten core. Should be able to break it in half relatively easily
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United States
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I just found this coin on (Not Allowed). Its Brass!sells for $5 Think i'll test out my new AP 556 rounds on it tomorrow. Should make nice clean holes. :)
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How much did you pay for the coin? If a 1893 CC Morgan is selling for $200 something is usually wrong unless you get it at a yard sale at 5am in the morning from 90 year old widow. Then, of course, you are almost stealing in that case. I see the seller admitted it was fake after you confronted him/her. Get out the horsewhip! This seller is basically a crook because he/she should have told you ahead of time about it being fake. Maybe they just assumed you knew, but I doubt it. Everything is faked today from pottery to diamonds. They fake that Roseville pottery straight from China. When prices don't make sense you know you are being faked out if it is from a dealer. 99% of dealers have some idea of the value of things. I assume this, but have been wrong on occasion.
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Tell the seller that you are requesting a refund. Then tell her she has two choices. Let you keep and destroy the coin or you will return it and report the coin and transaction to secret service. Sending a known c/f through the mail is mail fraud. She could be prosecuted. Now, hopefully she'll let you keep the coin for reference. Unfortunately, it is what professional call an-across-the-room fake meaning it should not fool anyone who collects Morgan dollars, as it looks nothing like a genuine coin except it is silver in color and it is round! The secret service will not care to know about this transaction either so don't waste your time with them. Just tell the seller that so you may be able to take the piece off the market. |
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I received the coin today. These Counterfeiters are good. The coin weight is perfect, Non-magnetic, and SG is correct. Just curious how you determined the specific gravity is correct? Typically these counterfeits are made thicker than authentic Morgans because the SG of the cast alloy is lower than .900 silver.  |
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and report the coin and transaction to secret service If you can find a way to do that, I would be interested. When I last looked at their website about counterfeit coins, that only advice I found there was "if you suspect a counterfeit coin, compare it to a genuine coin:. They have a "counterfeit note" report, but not a "counterfeit coin" report. Any counterfeit currency turned into the SS will not be compensated, but, they say, "you will be doing the right thing". Here's a challenge: Find a secret service based web page that specifically directs you what to do if you want to report counterfeit COINS. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Just curious how you determined the specific gravity is correct? Typically these counterfeits are made thicker than authentic Morgans because the SG of the cast alloy is lower than .900 silver. He probably measured it. Most fakes nowadays are die struck fakes not cast. Do a die stuck fake and use 900 fine silver, and the best fakes do use the correct alloy, you get the right SG. |
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I just found this coin on (Not Allowed). Its Brass!sells for $5 Think i'll test out my new AP 556 rounds on it tomorrow I took it that this meant the op coin was a brass alloy. |
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