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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Frankly I'm not seeing much of a decline, the shift from brick and mortar coin shops/coin clubs to the internet is continuing but there are still plenty of collectors out there. On ebay prices for even the most common coins are still fairly stable and there are a lot of realized prices that I'm surprised by (I sure wouldn't pay anywhere close to that). I occasionally go to local estate auctions with coins and I'm always surprised at how many people who I've never seen before at shows, clubs, or shops come out of the woodwork to bid the offerings to retail+++.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2130 Posts |
Coin collecting is not going away any time soon. Coins shows and coin clubs could possibly go away but not coin collectors. This is somewhat of a "private hobby". Very few of my friends even now I collect coins. I think I have been to three shows and I have never been a part of a coin club. I have built what I believe to be a decent collection from primarily online sources. This is how I am comfortable buying. I can take my time, research, and carefully think about each purchase. After I decide what I want to purchase it will be shipped to my house and waiting in my mail box for me to pick up. This is how I built my collection and I have a sneaky feeling there are lots of others out there just like me. I would not let declining coin shops, shows, or coin clubs discourage you from collecting and thinking that this is a dying hobby. The hobby is just catching up with modern times.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2850 Posts |
Not sure how many of you guys follow social media, but on Instagram there is a huge amount of young coin collectors sharing their collections -- even buying and selling. If anyone is familiar with this app, you can search using a hashtag (i.e. #coincollecting) and a huge amount of results show up.
I think the younger generation is finding new ways to go about collecting by using the Internet and other venues. I don't see this hobby going downhill anytime soon.
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Valued Member
United States
492 Posts |
I too am concerned about the future of coin collecting. When all of we elders have passed on and left our collections to our families or whomever, what will they do with them and what value will they maintain? Right now we can trade and sell/buy among ourselves but to me the real question is how youth will see old money, especially if it isn't used anymore. Say 2030 just to set a date. The millenial movement is to the phone and away from carrying money. I fear that they will have no interest even historically in coins in 30 years noting that is was a hobby for the old grey haired guys that they wanted to go away anyhow. Smile. I hope this isn't the case but there may be real reason for trying to get a good price now on a collection.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1613 Posts |
Over the forty plus years of collecting I have seen many cycles where the hobby was strong with no end in sight while others were looking rather grim. I attend at least one major show per year, try to squeeze in a few minor ones here and there, and have seen similar results in the younger generation attendees. Yet compared to the hobby numbers themselves the latter seems somewhat stable. Which I can not quite explain. Maybe it's the population of one generation compared to another. There are more of us baby-boomers than the millenials. Maybe it is the technology they seem so engrossed in. Yet they can still be found at the shows. On a bright note, I see quite a few of them posting on the new members link. So welcome young people! (And older, not leaving anyone out.).
What I have noticed, comparing the sold prices for high grade key dates auctioned off through the major houses, is that the prices are down slightly across the board from say five years ago. Perhaps they have peaked for the time being and are in the beginning stages of settling before leveling off. My personal thoughts on the reason? Investors. Not long ago the wealthy, non-collectors were buying them as a hedge in some portfolio. Of course the close of precious metals were much higher at the time. But who knows? Chalk it up as a trend.
As for the future, in a cashless society? I see that as definite boost. People always seem to find interest and collect things which are long gone or near so. So have faith. Our hobby isn't going to dry up and be hoarded by a bunch of us old guys.
ANA member - PAN Member - BCCS Member There are no problems only solutions - the late, great John Lennon
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: I attend at least one major show per year, try to squeeze in a few minor ones here and there, and have seen similar results in the younger generation attendees. I see no shortage of youth at the coin shows. The crowds seem really diverse.  Quote: As for the future, in a cashless society? I see that as definite boost. People always seem to find interest and collect things which are long gone or near so. So have faith. Our hobby isn't going to dry up and be hoarded by a bunch of us old guys. Agreed. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3546 Posts |
Quote: Coin collecting is stronger RIGHT NOW than it has ever been EVER. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
Quote: There are more of us baby-boomers than the millenials. I believe the population of millenials now outnumbers the baby boomers. But the millenials have not yet reached the age at which most people really start their long term coin collecting. (In their 40's) So we may see the hobby pick up quite a bit starting sometime in the next ten years.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
772 Posts |
Quote: Very few of my friends even now I collect coins. I think I have been to three shows and I have never been a part of a coin club. I have built what I believe to be a decent collection from primarily online sources. This is how I am comfortable buying. I can take my time, research, and carefully think about each purchase. After I decide what I want to purchase it will be shipped to my house and waiting in my mail box for me to pick up. This is how I built my collection and I have a sneaky feeling there are lots of others out there just like me. I would not let declining coin shops, shows, or coin clubs discourage you from collecting and thinking that this is a dying hobby. The hobby is just catching up with modern times. There is at least one other right here. 
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Valued Member
United States
59 Posts |
Great discussion for both sides. Everyone has a lucid point. Let's face it, no one knows. If your collecting for financial gain, your basically playing the stock market and gambling. I collect, mostly, circulated coins. I truly don't care what they are worth on the resale market. I collect for the history, and circulated coins have a history uncirculated coins can't match, a backstory to tell. This is what I want to pass on to my granddaughter. Example, I have an 1844-O Half Dime. It's dirty, dark, hard to see. To most collectors it is worthless. Backstory, I was 13 years old digging holes to plant trees in my parents yard and saw something shiny when I watered the tree. I'm 60 now and remember that day every time I look at it. Let's see an uncirculated match that! Plus, that was before the civil war. Who dropped it? Was it a plantation owner or a tradesman? Yes, I'm that guy on ebay buying the fine instead of the uncs. For perfect examples of coins, I fill the proof holes in my albums. P.S. Yes, I too am that guy that buys online or at my local coin shop. I don't go to shows, I don't join clubs. This forum is as close as I get to going public with my collecting. My kids don't even know!
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Moderator
 United States
189767 Posts |
Quote:Yes, I'm that guy on ebay buying the fine instead of the uncs 
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Moderator
 Australia
16868 Posts |
Quote: Not sure how many of you guys follow social media, but on Instagram there is a huge amount of young coin collectors sharing their collections -- even buying and selling. If anyone is familiar with this app, you can search using a hashtag (i.e. #coincollecting) and a huge amount of results show up.
I think the younger generation is finding new ways to go about collecting by using the Internet and other venues. I don't see this hobby going downhill anytime soon. Here is the problem that concerns many of us, and links back to the OP's concern regarding the increasing cashlessness of society. There are basically two different ways a child / young person usually gets interested in coins: they find an "old coin" or "foreign coin" in their pocket change, or they get given a coin hoard/collection by someone else. Note that only a small percentage of kids will become coin collectors when this happens; giving a child a bunch of coins does not automatically create a coin collector. Statistically, you've got about a 10% chance of it happening. Kids can also get involved in this way because it's cheap, and easy. If/when coins cease to become part of everyday experience, that first path will disappear - without pocket change, there can be no "finding something unusual in pocket change". And within a generation of that happening, to the non-collecting public, coins - all coins - will become something rare, unusual and potentially valuable - not something you'd just give away to the kids. So that second path will eventually dry up too. So I see coin collecting effectively disappearing as a mainstream hobby within two generations of coins themselves disappearing from mainstream public visibility. A coin collector will become as rare and "eccentric" as a collector of swords is regarded today.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
295 Posts |
I started collecting at age 9 in 2004. Still going strong. The demographics of coin shows are not representative of the collectors as a whole. My generation grew up with the Internet and we prefer to buy coins with the click of a button rather than having to travel long distances to attend events. It's the way I've done it ever since I started, and it's how I plan to continue as long as I'm collecting.
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Moderator
 United States
189767 Posts |
Quote: So I see coin collecting effectively disappearing as a mainstream hobby within two generations of coins themselves disappearing from mainstream public visibility. The hobby of kings once again.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
1185 Posts |
Quote: The hobby of kings once again maybe jbuck, and that would mean collecting would focus on the rarest and finest pieces with a strong pedigree, too expensive for the rest of us I am worried about the many genuine pieces that are original and interesting and on the market today for a reasonable price when the pollution by better and better numismatic frauds cannot be stopped. A too high level of pollution with worthless fakes will scare off most collectors and that will ruin the hobby. So it is a priority of the coin collectors community to find ways to stop the pollution.
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