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Whatever they decide on, I think it is important that all of the notes be the same; we can't have multiple different designs released in a single run for the same note that'd be a mess.
How about a compromise where from the left angle the portrait is Tubman and from the right it is Jackson. We can do this with modern holograms and it can be a handy security feature that is easily checked.
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Pillar of the Community
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It is ironic that Andrew Jackson, famous for opposing and dismantling the US central banking system, is on a note issued by the US central banking system.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Indeed ironic. Central banking was not re-established until the Civil War.
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It is ironic that Andrew Jackson, famous for opposing and dismantling the US central banking system, is on a note issued by the US central banking system.   |
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It would be nice to have some fresh themes on our currency.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's exciting! I hope they go through with it. I don't collect currency but I would enjoy seeing a change in my pocket bills. New designs are always welcome to me
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Pillar of the Community
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Good on you for shaking up the Pale, male, stale rule you have on your banknotes, all of your notes show old white men who died over 100 years ago.
Yet no African American people had the power or right to power back then, as much as I like Tubman on a note, she is not that well known. If they must put a Black person on a note, why not someone like Booker T Washington or Martin Luther King Jr.
My country New Zealand we got over diversity ages ago - In 1992 all our notes scuppered the Queen on every one and now we have.
$5 Edmund Hillary - White male mountain climber (Covers the "common man, Kiwi bloke" quotient)
$10 Kate Sheppard - White female suffragette (Covers the female quotient)
$20 The Queen - Keeps the Royalists and Traditionalists happy, plus the $20 is our most used and common note.
$50 Sir Apirana Ngata - Maori Male Politician and Civil rights leader. (Covers the race and humanitarian, man of the people quotient)
$100 Lord Ernest Rutherford of Nelson - Pakeha (White) Scientist (Covers the "Geek" quotient)
Despite my snarky comments, I am happy with these choices and the notes reflect the diversity and power of NZ society.
The Australians have done well too, their past two series of notes have depicted Aboriginals (Traditional and one who was a scientist), Women, Jews (Sir John Monash was Jewish), Scientists (Howard Florey), Poets (Banjo Patterson, Humanitarians (Edith Cowan), Performers (Dame Nellie Melba) and even a Convict (Francis Greenaway on the old $10 was a convict architect).
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01/25/2021 10:07 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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as much as I like Tubman on a note, she is not that well known. If they must put a Black person on a note, why not someone like Booker T Washington or Martin Luther King Jr. Though NZ could very well be different, growing up my history courses stressed Harriet Tubman's importance in the abolitionist movement, so I would argue she is a fairly well-known figure in the US. Also, the importance of finally including both a woman and an African-American on a bill can't be ignored Admittedly, I know more about Tubman than Washington, at least from my schooling, and Washington has featured on two US coins in the past. MLK would be a great choice as well, but I think Tubman is a better choice because she isn't so much the 'obvious' choice. MLK did incredible things, but at times it can almost feel like others who worked toward abolition and civil rights are overshadowed by his popularity. I hope this doesn't come off too argumentative, I just thought you opened up a neat discussion |
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Really doesn't matter a lot to me who is on the bills - I don't pay much attention to that aspect. They can put a donkey's posterior on them as long as I can get a big stack of them!
I suppose I would pitch a fit if something immoral or evil was on there, though.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Pillar of the Community
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Similar to our new Vice President, with Tubman you accomplish two goals in one person. You get a woman and you also get a person of color.
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Good on you for shaking up the Pale, male, stale rule ... as much as I like Tubman on a note, she is not that well known. If they must put a Black person on a note, why not someone like Booker T Washington or Martin Luther King Jr. For what it is worth, I knew who she was before BTW, but not MLK. Given these three choices, only one would not be described as a "male."  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I really don't like the photoshopped note designs that have been shown by the media. Just replacing Jackson with Tubman? Not changing anything else? And using an, in my opinion, unflattering photograph of Tubman.
Does anyone know (I can't be arsed to Google it at the moment) how new note designs are approved? Is it similar to coins, a committee's involvement? Or does Janet Yellen (as the Secretary of the Treasury) just get to be all "Tubman on the $20, Jackson be damned. I said it, so shall it be"?
Can we just have a new Educational Series? I'm growing tired of hearing about Note changes. Whatever happened to the $10's redesign with Hamilton moving to the reverse? Wasn't it supposed to be released anyway, regardless of a portrait change, last year due to the lawsuit pertaining to blind people not being able to adequately differentiate the denominations?
Or just outsource our notes to a nation that can get things done?
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Pillar of the Community
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Or just outsource our notes to a nation that can get things done? What in the world does this mean ? You can't be serious. SMH |
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It's been a long time since I felt the need to reply. I fully support the rule here to avoid political commentary. Such conversations never end graciously and often turn unkind. I think this thread is moving in that direction. Princetane's comment "the Pale, male, stale rule you have on your banknotes", misses the point. People featured on our bills are evidence of MLK's call to judge people by their character, not the color of their skin. Have we missed some great people of color, ABSOLUTELY! Can we/should we fix that - YES. I would like to believe that none of the people currently appearing on our currency were chosen because they were "pale males." Each of our currently featured persons has rightfully earned the respect and regard of this nation based on the sacrifices they made. That most certainly includes Andrew Jackson who was not a perfect person, but a great patriot. That may not be currently PC, but it is my considered opinion. Harriet Tubman made great sacrifices to help others. She is deserving of recognition for heractions.
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