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More Counterfeit Morgans On Ebay

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 Posted 04/27/2016  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
LOL, well that's a sure way of demonstrating they are counterfeit!
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 Posted 05/11/2016  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list

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Reported ...No CC dollars were made in 1921.


The Carson City Mint didn't make any dollars in 1886 also, but the Chinese are always ready to expand your set if you so desire.

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 Posted 05/11/2016  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Gone.
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 Posted 05/11/2016  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list

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The Carson City Mint didn't make any dollars in 1886


The 6 digit looks totally out of character, did it come from a different date; if so, which, please ?
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 Posted 05/11/2016  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list

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Reported ...No CC dollars were made in 1921.



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LOL, well that's a sure way of demonstrating they are counterfeit!


Counterfeit? I thought it was now established that as long as the coin bears a date or mint mark that was never actually produced by the mint it is simply a "fantasy" coin and not a counterfeit. Why did this get reported?
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 Posted 05/11/2016  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list
barryg---Are you serious. And, you're a "pillar of the community"

Rethink your thought. You thought wrong.
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 Posted 05/11/2016  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
Actually, I was being facetious. But that's the rationale used to justify Daniel Carr and the "fantasy" coins he produces, which are often exact duplicates of real coins except for an "impossible" date or mint mark. Whenever the subject comes up, I always ask whether that means that Chinese fakes that have impossible dates are also considered just "fantasy" coins instead of counterfeits, but I never seem to get an answer...
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 Posted 05/12/2016  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
And, as always, the moment I bring the subject up the conversation mysteriously ceases. I'm still waiting to see how a defender of Daniel Carr's "fantasy coins" can justify calling these Chinese products "counterfeits".
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 Posted 05/12/2016  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Luriya to your friends list
Report. I'm always skeptical lately with ebay.
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Reported what?
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 Posted 05/12/2016  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
BarryG,
I think you are on to something. You could have the Chinese Mint produce a Morgan line of all CC dates that were not issued by the U.S. Mint. You could call yours the BarryG CC fantasy line, and this would put you in direct competition with the Moonlight Mint.

Seriously, you make a valid point of where is the line of between a fantasy coin and a Counterfeit coin. I appreciate the work done by Dan Carr as he is a master of his craft, but if it is acceptable for Dan Carr, then, it should be acceptable for anyone to produce fantasy coins. The fantasy coin is a slippery slope as it could get out of control.
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 Posted 05/12/2016  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
Dan Carr is a super die maker, but I am not a fan of his impossible "fantasy coins." The 1975 quarter really got under my skin, but people jumped on me for complaining about it.
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I see quite a few Morgan's for sale on ebay and the prices just don't make sense. I see a Morgan that is certified that is being sold for about $3500 dollars less than its accepted Red Book value. Plus it is rated MS65. If the prices are not close to the book value for the coin and the condition I shy away. If the price is 10%-20% less than normal value I might bite if they are graded and slabbed. I just don't believe that a person with 2000 sales on ebay is going to offer up a $5000 coin for $100 in the "Buy Now" category. I am at the point where the difference between the AU Morgans I want and the MS Morgans is very steep. I need most of the scarce and CC Morgans and I know I am going to have to pay up.
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