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Axial Lighting Canon EOS 70d. Tethered Plus Micro Focus Er

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 Posted 07/13/2017  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
AK...you are right, my concept was incorrect. I was actually thinking these had an asymmetric characteristic, but they do not. My concept was to use 70% reflective glass to minimize the amount of light passing through the glass that must be absorbed by the system to keep it from re-reflecting up to the sensor. However, now it's not clear to me if there is any general benefit either direction, since even though less light passes through, more of what comes from the "dark" side is reflected up. I'll need to think more about this...Ray
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 Posted 07/13/2017  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
well I can see that I have to change my lighting. the Edmund glass is very different. I was not expecting this big of a difference. 2 images one the glass faces one way. flip the glass over. see the result very different. same light never moved it. the 3 image is one of the new Canadian release coins.

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 Posted 07/13/2017  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
rocky...the 2nd image is what I usually see from axial lighting tests I've done.
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 Posted 07/14/2017  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
i understand ray I see you have to cut all outside light. this is wonderful glass it works. ray the people who sold me. the replacement lens for my microscope objectives. I have a piece of optical glass coming in from them today. the glass is 1 mm thick. I will see if I like that better. but so far. I like the old picture frame glass better. here is 2 images with the only light on the glass and coin from a lamp.

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 Posted 07/21/2017  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
The following photograph illustrates why I rarely use axial lighting now. The lighting in this case was a 40 LED microscope ring light. The ring light was fitted to a Minolta CE-Rokkor 80mm F.F5.6 ( reversed) via the following adapters: 28mm -42mm step up ring, M42 -m39 adapter. This set up sees the light being projected in a manner that gives the appearance of axial lighting, but absent the distortion producing glass. Just a caution about the photograph. It is a Jpeg produced from a 16 bit Tiff file. The Jpeg was reduced substantively( more than 90%), as a result the image no where near the quality of the original. I use a 4k calibrated( monthly) monitor and the difference between the original and this image is shocking meaning this image is of embarrassingly poor quality. If any one wants to see a slightly reduced Jpeg ( the tiff is too large for Photobucket) PM me and I will try to send you a Link to photobucket( this forum no longer allows photo-bucket images to be posted)

Edit: I uploaded the full tiff image to my google drive. Use this link if you wish to download ( file size is too large for previewing on line) it however, take note the file size is 241mb. The link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0...?usp=sharing

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 Posted 07/21/2017  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocketchange2 to your friends list
kiwi:

Is there a typo error in this post?
Is it a 24.1 Mb or a 241 Mb Tiff file?
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 Posted 07/21/2017  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
241MB. Its not a typo. the sony A7rII produces 128mb Raw (14 bit)files. When I edit them in capture one pro I convert them to 16 bit Tiff files. Usually they are also 128MB however, the image is a stack produced by zerene stacker, and The only save option ( I don't like Jpeg) for tiff is 8 bit or 16 bit. I used the 16bit which resulted in the image being 241MB.

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 Posted 07/21/2017  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocketchange2 to your friends list
Wow!
I'd like to see the image, but the largest TIFF file that I has successfully transported on my Email server is 22 Mb.
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 Posted 07/21/2017  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qxy to your friends list
Austrokiwi, that's an amazing photo. I've never managed to get that level of detail, I obviously still have a long way to go... (then again, I also don't have a 40 MP camera) :)
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wiki:
That is an amazing image!
It's going to take you awhile to tag all those molecules!
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 Posted 07/21/2017  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
wow AK great photo. AK here is 2 images with a homemade ring light. actually this is a car head light. Cobb angel eye. here is the photos no editing single photo no stacking. I know stacking improves the photo greatly. but I am lazy its only 44 Celsius with the humdex at 8 o'clock this evening.

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 Posted 07/24/2017  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
wanted to try this true view glass. it is like I told the supplier. if you are using UV coating. it will show a colour. well it shows in a pink contrast. I will contact the supplier. to see if they have clear coat for UV. but as far as the glass goes. it works good other than that pink. thought on the images.

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 Posted 08/03/2017  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
thought I would try vinegar. to remove the UV protective layer. this is great glass.
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 Posted 08/04/2017  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list
Would automatic white balance help with the pink?
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 Posted 08/04/2017  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
A couple of weeks ago I conducted a comparison between an axial lighting rig and a adapted Microscope ring light. I was shocked at the difference. Below the significantly reduced( and therefore degraded) image I have placed a link to my Google drive where you can down load ( or just preview)the full sized Jpegs(converted from Tiff). I did very little editing so that I could get a warts and all comparison. Camera Sony A7rII, lens Minolta CE-Rokkor 80mmm F5.6 at 5.6. background is Edmunds optics black out material, beam splitter is an Edmunds optics 50/50.

You can see the axial adds a color cast (Which was a surprise to me), ghosting( a secondary image created on the second air-glass interface), a "halo"/flare which I think is also caused at the glass-air interface of the beam-splitter. All the axial lighting artifacts can be edited away but, isn't it easier to not have to do such editing?


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The full sized image really highlights the differences but it is large(64MB) you should be able to preview it rather than downloading it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0...?usp=sharing
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