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Forum Dad
 United States
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Might not be so sinister. Sometimes buyers back out, it happens.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
 Good spadework.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3265 Posts |
definitely being shill bidded.. The winning bidder (e***n) of the previous auction for the same coin is again bidding on this one. Exact same coin exact same shill bidder....
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
819 Posts |
should anything be done about this? report to ebay" or just mind my own affairs and let ebay police themselves?
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
21663 Posts |
ebay does not police themselves anymore. It is up to other bidders to report sellers who list counterfeit coins or shillbidders to them. Personally I dislike shillbidders more than those who sell counterfeit coins because they know what they are doing whereas fake coin sellers often do not. I have reported shillbidders in the past with good results and suggest you do the same with this seller.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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i don't think you can report shill bidding, I think they have software that does that internally.. but I would like to know for sure.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
21663 Posts |
silverwolf- "For sure" you can report shillbidders. I have done so on numerous occasions in the past.
Sometimes it takes more than one report or more than one person, but it can be done.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
819 Posts |
notified ebay (after about 30 minutes of trying to find how) ebay's reporting system sucks! wasn't able to enter specifics, just able to check boxes that were somewhat accurate to the complaint, most of the "report" links didn't work or ended up on the "yellow brick road" , seems like they ( ebay) doesn't want to get complaints, you have to persevere to make it through so then they take it more seriously if you expend that much effort (maybe).
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote:seems like they ( ebay) doesn't want to get complaints Yup Quote: then they take it more seriously if you expend that much effort (maybe). Nope ebay makes money off listings and sales. Since you aren't paying the fees, you are the product. The don't give a rat's fuzzy posterior about you, nor about the sellers.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
I understand your frustration. Trying to personalize a corporation is a difficult task because they are entities void of personalities or feelings. The business world can be cold and harsh but we don't have to take it personally.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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If a shill bidder buys it, the seller will still have to pay the final value fee, unless the shill backs out. How many backouts can a shill account have before it is banned? Not sure I get how this shilling is supposed to work for anybody.
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Valued Member
United States
280 Posts |
Good point andrew99, Are the shill bidders paying the final value fees to ebay ?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1839 Posts |
Quote:Good point andrew99, Are the shill bidders paying the final value fees to ebay ? I've wondered this myself. Seems like it would get expensive to shill bid fairly quickly. Of course they can always say the winner cancelled and close it out but I'd think ebay would catch on if you did this on a regular basis. By the way, I pretty sure some of the auction houses shill a good amount of the coins on their site. I know of one that does it for sure (as in they told me they did). That auction house generally shills coins up to around 70% of what they feel the coins was worth. One the one hand that doesn't seem like such a big deal, but on the other hand that means you're never likely to catch something that's a great bargain that may have "slipped through the cracks".
Edited by Tbone 07/06/2016 1:35 pm
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