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1856 Flying Eagle Cent. Whaddya Think?

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 Posted 11/07/2005  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
Hi Shasti,

FE stands for "Flying Eagle" It is the cent design type that was produced in 1857 and 1858. Therewas also some pattern pieces produced in 1856 which are the rarest of the lot.

catman
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 Posted 11/07/2005  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
I would be afraid to touch this even if I was using Catman's hands and money!!! If you want an altered 56 just go buy a 58 and get your dremel tool out and save a lot of money for a fake!
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 Posted 11/07/2005  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list
Thank you,I usually look at harlanjberk site and they have just 1857 F.E. and then 1858 L.L. & S.L. which would be large & small letters but then why only 1857 is F.E.?
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 Posted 11/07/2005  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
Hi Shatsi

The 1858 is also a Flying Eagle cent, but has a variety of a small letter and large letter.

Which is a small change in the die, but still an FE.



Rick
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11/07/2005 1:04 pm
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 Posted 11/07/2005  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
Metalman is correct. Basically the F.E. is just an abbreviation for Flying Eagle. The 58 had Large Letters and Small Letters but still a F.E. regardless. Hope this helps.
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 Posted 11/09/2005  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by catman

I wouldn't touch this coin unless it was authenicated by one of the big 3.

catman



You're right Catman. Unless Metalman, Morgan Fred or Bobby authenticate this, I wouldn't touch it either! (those were the 3 you had in mind, right?)

I hope the seller doesn't use the fact that he said he didn't know if the coin was altered or not as an excuse to not return someone's money.
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 Posted 11/09/2005  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kyra to your friends list
I can't believe someone would actually pay over $2000 for something that might be altered. Sure, if it's legit then you've got yourself a bargain, but I couldn't take that chance. I don't know that much about Flying Eagles, but that six looks funny to me. You'd be better off buying the 1856 replica that guy's selling for $19.99! [:0]

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 Posted 11/09/2005  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tradernick to your friends list
Funny how the date is in shadow in the photo. Note the photo of the reverse is well lit...bright enough to see tooling marks(?) at 6 o'clock on the rim.
Like it's been said, the sellers feedback is decent enough, but I'd never EVER think of buying (or selling) this without an ironclad guarantee of authenticity.
tradernick


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 Posted 11/09/2005  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Kyra

I can't believe someone would actually pay over $2000 for something that might be altered. Sure, if it's legit then you've got yourself a bargain, but I couldn't take that chance. I don't know that much about Flying Eagles, but that six looks funny to me. You'd be better off buying the 1856 replica that guy's selling for $19.99! [:0]

Rachel [:p]



I often think that no matter how much effort we make into educating the coin-buying public, there are certain people who insist on being cheated, even after they've been warned. From the oft-quoted (allegedly) P.T. Barnum, "There's a sucker born every day.". If the buyer wants to blow 2K bucks after passing through the red flags, he deserves what he gets. At some point, people have to be responsible for their own actions.

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 Posted 11/10/2005  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tradernick to your friends list
My dad said it even better than Barnum. He always said
"There's an A$$ for every seat".
Frankly I'd expect negative feedback to be posted about this auction. The buyer will find out it's a fake, the seller will claim that they stated in the description that they didn't know if it was genuine or not. Pretty sad.
Nick
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 Posted 11/10/2005  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
Sorry, That will not let the seller off the hook. They are still responsible for the refund.

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 Posted 11/10/2005  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I find it especially sad that people don't make use of the many, many resources for education and knowledge before they spend their hard-earned cash. Self-education has been made so easy with the number of books available and the many internet websites and forums that there really is no excuse for not having some knowledge, except for laziness.
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 Posted 11/10/2005  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list
From a law enforcement seminar I attended while working with the US National Park Service many years ago, I learned that about 15% of the U.S. population is: 1.) Functionally illiterate; 2.) Unable to balance even a checkbook, let alone manage personal finances; 3.) Unwilling and unable to learn new things including lessons taught by negative experiences; 4.) Are almost completely oblivious to external stimuli ( = have no idea what is going on around them); 5.) Cannot differentiate right from wrong; 6.) Will not admit when they are wrong; 7.) Commit crimes with no conscience, remorse, nor often even awareness they are committing a crime. It should come as no surprise that these categories apply to the same 15%. While this information is outdated, almost certainly the figure now approaches 20%. This information is an over-simplification, but taken within the context of many ebay participants is understandable.

I suspect many ebay buyers are at least at the edges of this 20% if not well within the borders. Then we have some sellers...

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 Posted 11/10/2005  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kyra to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred

From a law enforcement seminar I attended while working with the US National Park Service many years ago, I learned that about 15% of the U.S. population is: 1.) Functionally illiterate; 2.) Unable to balance even a checkbook, let alone manage personal finances; 3.) Unwilling and unable to learn new things including lessons taught by negative experiences; 4.) Are almost completely oblivious to external stimuli ( = have no idea what is going on around them); 5.) Cannot differentiate right from wrong; 6.) Will not admit when they are wrong; 7.) Commit crimes with no conscience, remorse, nor often even awareness they are committing a crime. It should come as no surprise that these categories apply to the same 15%. While this information is outdated, almost certainly the figure now approaches 20%. This information is an over-simplification, but taken within the context of many ebay participants is understandable.

I suspect many ebay buyers are at least at the edges of this 20% if not well within the borders. Then we have some sellers...





Fred, I gotta agree with you 100% on that one, but I bet the figure is even higher than your 20%. Anyone who works with the public sees this firsthand every day. The number of adults I see who have no idea how to balance a checkbook or have no clue how taking out a loan works shouldn't astound me anymore, but it still does. I read somewhere that the average American adult has about a fourth grade education- that's an insult to some fourth graders I know!

Rachel [:p]
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11/10/2005 8:33 pm
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 Posted 11/10/2005  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred

From a law enforcement seminar I attended while working with the US National Park Service many years ago, I learned that about 15% of the U.S. population is: 1.) Functionally illiterate; 2.) Unable to balance even a checkbook, let alone manage personal finances; 3.) Unwilling and unable to learn new things including lessons taught by negative experiences; 4.) Are almost completely oblivious to external stimuli ( = have no idea what is going on around them); 5.) Cannot differentiate right from wrong; 6.) Will not admit when they are wrong; 7.) Commit crimes with no conscience, remorse, nor often even awareness they are committing a crime.





Fred, your in depth above description of our elected officials in Washington is not very kind, but astoundingly right on the mark!!
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