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Ok excellent. Thx for providing your opinion on this!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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I picked up this coin in a group of coins recently. I think that it is early Islamic of the bull & horseman type. The legend appears to be Arabic. This coin is larger than most of these - a little larger than a US quarter. Any ideas?   |
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Comparison of the coin above with Seljuq coins of Kaykhusraw I and Rukn al-din Suleiman. Perhaps echizento or Kushanshah will pin it down further...they are both good at these.  |
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Yes, it's a coin of the Seljuqs of Rum, Suleiman Shah as Malik of Toqat, before becoming Sultan. The reverse reads al-malik al-qahir Suleiman Shah bin Qilij Arslan. I don't believe that there is any direct connection between this type and the bull and horseman jitals. However, both the Shahi dynasty of Kabul, which introduced the bull and horseman coins, and the Rum Seljuq dynasty are descended from nomadic Turkic tribes of the Eurasian steppe, to whom horsemanship was of central importance.
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08/06/2020 05:52 am
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Thanks!! I'll have to learn some more about this dynasty and its coins.
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SHAHI: Samanta Deva, 850-1000 AD AR Jital, Bull / Horseman: Tye-14, recumbent bull to left with trisul on rump, Nagari inscription above // horseman right, holding banner, 20 mm, 3.54 grams      Edited by louisvillekyshop
10/08/2020 9:35 pm
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Nice one! Not Samanta deva but Spalapati Deva. Looks like an earlier issue, too.
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Thanks Bob! Finn;
Thanks so much for the correct ID! Noted and fixed on my coin.
Spalapati Deva. Ca. 750-900. AR jital Horseman advancing right, with Brahmi letter to left / Bull seated left with trident on hump;
Nagari legend Sri Spalapati Deva above. Tye 6.1
20 mm, 3.54 grams
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10/08/2020 10:09 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Based on the Brahmi akshara above the horse's hindquarters, it would be Tye 4.1.
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10/08/2020 11:06 pm
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Kushanshah:
Thanks! Now between you and Finn I have changed my listing twice so the ID gets better and better but sadly I hardly ask about a coin which makes me wonder how often I write complete rubbish for an ID I am in a hurry with and people just put up with my many errors.
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@louisvillekyshop You must be doing something right. If we each listed identical coins on ebay opening at 99¢ and yours sold for $30, mine would sell for $1.25! Edited by Kushanshah
10/09/2020 02:54 am
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My recent acquisition of a Bull and Horseman Type-I with bull side obv. This is of Prithviraj Chauhan who ruled Delhi from CE. 1179 to 1192. He was the son of Someswaradeva and the last Hindu ruler of Delhi, whom Muhammad bin Sam alias Muhammad Ghori subdued to snatch power. On the obv. is the recumbent bull with "asavari sri samanta deva" legend in Sarada script above similar to the one you can find on some Samantadeva bull and horseman coins. Rev. shows the horseman passant to the right and the ruler's name "sri Pri thvi (raja deva) above.   |
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So glad to have you back and posting new pick-ups here @drnsr!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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I agree. Excellent example!  |
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