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Toned Silver Eagles - Good Or Bad?

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 Posted 08/27/2016  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Quit lying fox. Tell the truth, you sent that ASE to the sun like lex luthor did with Superman's hair to create that anti-Superman "Nuclear Man" in Superman 4 didn't you
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 Posted 08/27/2016  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
...I guess only the obverse went 'cuz the reverse is pristine original silver
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 Posted 08/27/2016  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list

Quote:
hmmmm. I'm leaning towards improperly stored



Well that pretty much describes all "natural toning"
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 Posted 08/27/2016  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Spot on...
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 Posted 08/27/2016  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Actually I would call it "properly stored"
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 Posted 08/27/2016  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Influenced by your avatar?
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 Posted 08/27/2016  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
I rarely post on the coin side, but is toning a coin term for tarnishing on silver coins ?
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 Posted 08/28/2016  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Exactly...
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 Posted 09/02/2016  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add howell1018 to your friends list
About 30 years ago I went into a Chevrolet dealership on business. While waiting for the owner to emerge, I watched an elderly secretary at her desk. She was smoking and in front her were 8-10 common date "white" Morgan dollars on a towel. She was directing the smoke at the dollars. I asked her why she was doing that (even though I had a pretty good idea why). She said she didn't know, but that the boss had asked her to do it, so she was doing it.
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 Posted 09/04/2016  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsA-Z to your friends list
To each their own of course, but I don't want even a hint of tarnish (toning) on my ASE's and I have never been in the market to buy a tarnished ASE.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reichpapers to your friends list
Since these are so new and shouldn't look like that, would dipping be a bad solution to restore it?
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 Posted 09/24/2016  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CLS12 to your friends list
I left an ASE out on a wood plank in my unfinished basement last winter. $13 an ounce let's you experiment. Last I checked It's got a nice gold tone going on.. I need flip it bc the reverse still blast white. It took a while for any toning to occur. I'm curious if an acetone soak would remove some of the toning..
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 Posted 09/24/2016  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list
I'd bet that the two toned coins were at one end or the other of a stack of coins. It looks sort of like end of roll toning, where only one face is toned. The untoned face could have been protected because it was against another coin. If a single coin is exposed to the atmosphere for say about 21 years you might get something like this:

Toned-Silver-Eagles---Good-Or-Bad?

Edit: The coins might been against wood. Most wood is constantly out gassing and different woods out gas different chemicals. I guess if you placed it on wood for the purpose of toning it, it would be artificial toning, by natural means (is that oxymoronic?)
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 Posted 09/24/2016  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
If you go back to page one CDH that ASE I posted took around 18 months to tone not 20 years....and the reverse is blast white because it was on a surface (filing cabinet).

Morgan dollars used to have roll and bag toning but ASE's are in sealed tubes and not open ended.

Silver that tones naturally (on a file cabinet) is a product of natural toning...no artificial means involved...that's what silver does.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list
This one of mine was just in open air, not in or next to anything that out gasses other than what was encountered by chance in a few moves over the years. I did not mean to imply that I thought ASEs would tone in mint tubes, I don't think they would. I was imagining a loose stack of coins in the corner of a drawer. I agree that toning can happen in a matter of months under the right conditions. Sometimes the opposite of the previous scenario occurs, where the side on the surface tones and the up side doesn't. It all depends on the exact conditions. That fact is part of why I am not willing to pay a significant for even beautifully toned coins. A small premium, sure, but not what I would pay for a pristine coin one grade better. Other people put up more of a premium but I think it is risky because something like toning can go in and out of favor, whereas the grade of a well preserved coin is unlikely to change. Light toning, like on my coin above could probably be removed with a two second dip, If I had a good reason to do it. Since it is a bullion coin, pretty much all of it's value is in the silver, so toning makes no difference in value.
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