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You Vs PCGS 1885 Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 09/01/2016  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
I'm going to buck the trend and say just a 65. My reasons are related to the strike. Philadelphia Mint strikes are notoriously strong and sharp. Note the hair directly above Liberty's ear and the eagle's breast feathers. They lack the detail seen on 65+ and 66 examples. The fields are exquisite on this example, though.
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 Posted 09/01/2016  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list
It this isn't MS66, I'll never see one. Beautiful coin
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 Posted 09/01/2016  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
can we please have the reveal?
I have been following this since it was posted, and I cannot wait any longer......
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 Posted 09/01/2016  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
Solid MS-66
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 Posted 09/01/2016  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add teslacoil to your friends list
Mm mm that is definitely VF30 lol
looks like MS 66+
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 Posted 09/01/2016  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list
Well this one was a big shock when I saw it...PCGS gave it an MS64. I`m still scratching my head:

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/81301097
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 Posted 09/01/2016  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
That is disappointing.
i was one of the "detractors" and I was saying 65+. The forum as a whole gave it a 66.
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 Posted 09/01/2016  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
If all my coins were as nice as all my photographs, I'd be a rich man.
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 Posted 09/02/2016  12:44 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Wow, that's surprising. I wonder if they felt there was a bit of terminal toning above the head, enough to knock it down a couple points. But that's the best looking MS-64 I've seen...
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 Posted 09/02/2016  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Necer149 to your friends list
Maybe cross it over to NGC...? I think they have a policy where you give them a minimum grade (let's say MS64), and if they don't think it reaches MS64 they will keep it in the PCGS holder. But I can almost guarantee you NGC would put that beauty in a 65, if not a 66 holder.
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 Posted 09/02/2016  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list
Yeah, I'm really struggling on the grade, I found they were quite hard on all the Morgans I submitted that order. Great idea Nacer, might try a cross for a couple. I wanted to post it to see if there was something I missed on the coin which has held it back at 64, but seems like I'm not alone.
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 Posted 09/02/2016  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I still see nothing to change my opinion. This is worthy of a gold bean or upgrade. I really think that this is the TPG business model, under-grade classic coins to better the chances of a re-submit.
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 Posted 09/02/2016  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
I suspect the reason was strike weakness - a weakly struck coin, even if absolutely pristine, seldom grades above 64.
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 Posted 09/02/2016  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I really don't see this as a weakly struck coin. I'm wondering if it's a greased filled die looking at the reverse I G W T motto.
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 Posted 09/03/2016  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
I would have said MS-66.

Maybe you will get a gold sticker from CAC if you send it in...
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