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What's Wrong With This 1997 Half Dollar ? Help

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 Posted 09/18/2016  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good input.

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 Posted 09/18/2016  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It is always best to do a side by side with a coin from the same year. Some designs were changed a bit. The 2001-2004 cent obverses have larger letters than other years. Even the large and small date 1982s were quite different:
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Often we look at just the date, but the whole design was different from the large to small sate designs. So it is best to compare with the same year and also consider that there could be a small and large date that are different. (1960, 1970, 1974, 1982 are just a few years off the top of my head that this happened)
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 Posted 09/18/2016  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
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I have handled a lot of halves while roll searching for not just silver, but for varieties as well. I would stack them by date and MM (of known varieties), and then each half was put under my microscope. Each week I went through two to four boxes this way.

After awhile you get used to the various characteristics inherent to certain dates. What has been said so far is spot on for accuracy.

Your 1997 likely spent most of its time in a casino and was worn from the usage. The head style should be smaller for this ear than the 1990.

Good eye!

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 Posted 09/18/2016  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
Went back to look at my 1997-D -- it looks pretty much the same as yours. I just didn't notice the difference before.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMom4 to your friends list
Coop I was actually trying to do a side by side just now but it'll have to wait till all the monsters are asleep. Any suggestions on this or overlay comparison technique?
Dave42 thanks I think you are most likely right, except it maybe when in hand it is more noticeable just how "off" this coin is a a whole. Even in my non existence ok knowledge just money handeling time served sometimes a coin hits your hand and you can just feel something different that makes you look down.
Or am I the only one who "feels" this about money ?
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 Posted 09/18/2016  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
A good site for normal images of the deign for each year is on the PCGS website on the coinfacts area. You can pull up an image that is large of the obverse and reverse and if you need it even larger, you can punch the button on the lower center and it will even be larger. (they range from 4K Pixels to 6K pixels) They are great to use for editing purposes to look as close as a microscope would see on a certain area you want to see up close.
http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/
Where can you get images this clear?
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You can even enlarge them also with an editing program to make them even larger.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMom4 to your friends list
Thank you earl very well described to this newbie.

Y'all are a plethora of knowledge. I love reading the books but the exchange is so much more helpful.
I'm going to study him vs pics on coops suggestion (for learning at this point) and move along.
Honestly having a hard time right now sorting through the stacks of change KNOWINGLY which ones to keep and which ones for the kids piggie banks.
Y'all are the best
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 Posted 09/18/2016  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMom4 to your friends list
Awesome coop. Wish I could give you a dancing emoji.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMom4 to your friends list
Out of curiosity if " normal" what would make the actual size of the coin smaller ?
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 Posted 09/18/2016  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
It would be smaller because the reeds are worn away. Also,when comparing coins use the same date and mint and the same condition.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list

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Awesome coop. Wish I could give you a dancing emoji.

We do have this one.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Most of the time you will be able to determine it with out a size by size comparison. They will be obvious. Look for the normal things. Like the distance from a device from a rim or note the bust size if it in close or far away from the motto or other letters on the edge of a coin. But the biggest clue is to use the same year of coin.

Next question: How to size two images? You need editing software for images. Crop the images to the same boundary. (Same devices, rims edges of bust/building edges) Then size them the same and move them together on one image.
Horizontal:
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Vertical:
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Foursquare:
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Same pair of images with them rotated to show vertically and horizontally how they compare.
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Note how all images were cropped the same and sized the same.
Comparisions:
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These are handy when you want the image right next to each other to see the differences or the same thing going on with two/or more different coins/
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 Posted 09/18/2016  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMom4 to your friends list
Coop very very helpful thank you again. I'm going to be watching some of your videos here soon too.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
If you can see the copper core on the edge, then it is almost certainly a genuine coin as no counterfeiter would use cupronickel clad metal stock.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMom4 to your friends list
Biochemist great tip. Thank you.
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