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The 3 Different Mints

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 Posted 10/10/2016  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
You forgot the C for Charlotte (also 1838-1861, I believe, and also only gold).
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 Posted 10/10/2016  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
Plus M for Manila - used on US Minting Philippine coins.

Note that only SOME coins manufactured at West Point are marked W.
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 Posted 10/11/2016  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigchip22 to your friends list
nice if they minted San Francisco coins for circulation again
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 Posted 10/11/2016  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
A couple more things to mention-
From 1965-67, no mintmarks were used regardless of the mint at which a coin was struck.
I believe West Point (and San Francisco too, I think) has minted coins for Philadelphia in recent years if Philly can't meet its quota. These coins are unmarked, as Bstrauss mentioned.

There are many factors that determine rarity.
Earle42 said that mintage figures are important, and they are a major (perhaps the most important) factor.
Another, relatively minor, factor is geography- 1968-74 S-mint Lincolns, which generally have lower mintages than their counterparts from Denver and Philly, are apparently fairly rare on the East Coast, while here on the West Coast they're relatively easy to find.
Sometimes special circumstances can lead to major price differences. When the 1903-O Morgan dollars were struck, the vast majority were locked away in the treasury, with very few entering circulation. They became incredibly valuable compared to Philadelphia coins of the same date, despite very similar mintages. Then the price suddenly dropped when many bags of them were released in 1962.
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 Posted 10/11/2016  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list

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What makes the same coin more valuable from one mint than another?


Only two things. How many were saved intentionally or accidently (the supply) compared to how many collectors want (the demand). In the old days the supply was determined principally by mintage and low mintage coins were scarce while high mintage were common but this changed in 1931 when millions and millions of coin collectors got started. The Great Depression spawned millions of coin collectors and these folks saved new coin and especially low mintage pennies.

Then in 1965 everybody quit saving any new coins at all but it doesn't matter because there are so few collectors for base metal moderns. Now days it tends to be the highest mintage coins that are poorly saved while people do save the low mintage ones. It's really quite complex with coins like the bicentennial quarter being set aside by the millions while the DE quarter can be scarce in choice condition but common in typical condition.

Mint marks are a very large determinant of the number that get saved because they identify mintages and because different sections of the country save different coins. The western US tends to save more clad than the east, for instance. This appears to be caused by the fact that they don't hate the coins as much and, probably, because Denver quality is far superior to Philly. People just don't want to save the junk in a brand new roll of Philly mintage.
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 Posted 10/11/2016  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
The strangest anomaly from my experience are the 1968-70 S nickels. S-mint cents are rare here on the east coast, but the S-mint nickels are pretty common, so much so that it's easy to find them in high grades. Maybe people don't notice because of the smaller and less prominent mint marks?

I am also shocked that the grading companies have never made a slab for the San Francisco minted coins without a mint mark. Some members on here recall seeing shiny, "Philadelphia" cents in circulation in the San Francisco area, just a few weeks after the official release date. No big mystery about those coins!
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 Posted 10/11/2016  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IamCam to your friends list
DE quarter? Clad? Definition please, and thanks!

Denver superior to Philly? What are the reasons?
Westerners love coins more?
Very interesting info!
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 Posted 10/11/2016  11:25 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
It would help me, and maybe others, if you phrased your questions in complete sentences.
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 Posted 10/11/2016  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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DE quarter? Clad? Definition please, and thanks!

DE quarter = The first of the State Quarters issued in 1999 honoring the first state Delaware.

Clad = The three layer composition of the currenct US dime, quarter, half and dollar. The coins are made of an outer layer of either 75% copper 25% nickel (dime, quarter, half, Ike and SBA dollars) or a copper, manganese, zinc, and nickel alloy (Sac, NA, and President dollars) In each case they are bonded or "clad" to a pure copper core layer.

There are also some silver clad coins made up of two outer layers of 80% silver 20% copper bonded to a center layer of 79% copper 21% silver. The overall composition being 40% silver 60% copper. These are referred to as 40% silver clad coins.
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 Posted 10/11/2016  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

One thing to remember about value in coins. Popularity. As rumors spread about something in coins, the values also are effected. For example once the S mint started not making regular coins for circulation, people started running around saving anything with an S mint mark.
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 Posted 10/11/2016  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list
For these and many more definitions, we have a huge glossary here: http://www.coincommunity.com/dictionary/

Have a look at it, you may find it interesting!
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 Posted 10/11/2016  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IamCam to your friends list
Thanks again for all the info. The glossary is a great idea, but I find it won't load properly on my iPad. It just keeps reloading and saying there was a problem with the page.
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I am also shocked that the grading companies have never made a slab for the San Francisco minted coins without a mint mark. Some members on here recall seeing shiny, "Philadelphia" cents in circulation in the San Francisco area, just a few weeks after the official release date. No big mystery about those coins!

Unless there are known die markers or other identifying marks for San Francisco coins with no mintmark, there's really way to prove that the "Philadelphia" coin you got a few weeks after release wasn't received in change in Philadelphia two days earlier and spent after flying across the country in someone's pocket.
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 Posted 10/12/2016  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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Unless there are known die markers or other identifying marks for San Francisco coins with no mintmark, there's really [no] way to prove that the "Philadelphia" coin you got a few weeks after release wasn't received in change in Philadelphia two days earlier and spent after flying across the country in someone's pocket.

Certainly - I know that I got my 2009(P) Presidency cent in early December 2009, something like three weeks after release, after my uncle went to Moscow with that coin in his pocket. Surely many other such cents would have ended up in San Francisco instead (New York to San Francisco is probably a much more common travel destination than New York to Moscow, especially in winter).

EDIT: The only reason we even know about any wrong-mintmark coins is pretty much when no such coins of the other mint were made in that year (this is the case with the 1922 no D, and kind of the case with the assorted no S proofs because there were no proofs of that date made in Philadelphia).
The other possibility could be them turning up in official mint sets and rolls, I suppose - that's how we know about the mints of Godless dollars; but certainly there were no official San Francisco mint circulation cent rolls (that's kind of the point).
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