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@exoguy, yes interesting website--thanks for the recommendation. Lately, I've been mostly focusing on coins that are older than their world coins, but younger than their ancient coins. Not as much material out there.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I get customers like that all time. More common than you think. On the flip side is the following expericance: I was a newbie dealer, and the local b and m dealer had taken pity on me and helped me out from time to time. I used to go through his melt bag and pull coins out for melt plus 10 percent. One day, I'm sitting at a case going through the days purchases, when a guy comes in and also wants to sell Buffalo nickels. He argued with owner and he too wanted one dollar each. He said "I saw it on the internet" ( lol). Finally the owner real nicely tells him that he can sell them for a quarter a piece. On his way out he asked me if I wanted to buy them. I look at the owner and he nods and goes back to his reading. I aske to see them and as he told the owner, I had to pay for them before I could see them. I almost passed and asked him how many he had. So he pulls out a whitman folder and counts them. He looks up and says "65". I want 65 dollars. Well....knowing that a full set is 65, I decided to take the gamble and give him the money. He hands the album over and sure enough, a full set of full date Buffalo's. I showed Randy, the owner, after the customer left. He took one look and shakes his head and congradulated me. He said a year later that he wanted so bad to have me give the set to him. It was his shop after all. But then he thought that since he had passed on it, and I HAD asked permission..... More times than most the stuff that goes out the door is junk. But every once in awhile.........
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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We have had some crazy customers come into the local shop ..
Never had a crazy one wanting to sell their coins site unseen.
That's crazy man ....crazy
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Funny story - but I don't think I would have let him back into the store a second time. 
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Pillar of the Community
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@jmkendall ... I'd have handed Randy $100 ... just my take. Many years ago, I was looking through a box of Barber dimes at my LCS; choice picks at $1.50 a coin. The dealer, Bill, was on the phone, and the box was on the counter, so I casually looked through it. I pulled out a full rim 1895-O dime that was worth $125 or so at the time. I told Bill to mark it at $100 and put it in his case. If it didn't sell for that price, I'd pay $100 the following weekend. Bill sold it before my return. But, that experience put me at the top with him, and the deals flowed for many years thereafter. Showing good will to a dealer will reap rewards ... Bill and I became good friends for many years, and I was able to help him as much as he helped me build my collection.
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United States
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These are such interesting insights into coin dealer transactions with customers.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Funny story - but I don't think I would have let him back into the store a second time. @Buddy ... It was the partner, Rich, who let the so-called "customer" back into the shop. Mark was the one with the headache, and he was in the back room when the nut job returned.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The SAD thing is, dopes like that turn around and get on YELP and other sites and give bad reviews to dealers like this.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 One jerk can hurt a decent business. Quote:
@Buddy ... It was the partner, Rich, who let the so-called "customer" back into the shop. Mark was the one with the headache, and he was in the back room when the nut job returned. Well, that makes sense. 
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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Quote: @exoguy, yes interesting website--thanks for the recommendation. Lately, I've been mostly focusing on coins that are older than their world coins, but younger than their ancient coins. Not as much material out there. That place actually seems to think that "ancient coins" == "Greek and/or Roman"; they have a few ancient Indian coins in their "world coins" list! That said, if the prices are in US dollars (as appears to be the case), it's all way out of my league, anyway.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: the prices are in US dollars (as appears to be the case), it's all way out of my league, anyway. The prices cited are high end estimates. If you see something you like, you make a bid. I've won some decent pieces at about half their estimate. They have pretty good pics. When it comes to buying coins, my philosophy has long been that virtually every dealer carries bargains in his stock. The key is simply the buyer's ability to spot them! 
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Russian Federation
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Quote: The prices cited are high end estimates. If you see something you like, you make a bid. I've won some decent pieces at about half their estimate. They have pretty good pics. Believe me, half of $75, never mind half of a three-digit sum, is already an awful lot of money. If the 2014/15 exchange rate jump didn't happen, and exchange rates were still where they used to be in 2011-13, I'd have at least considered paying $40 or more for a coin. (Indeed, I have bought many large silver coins for similar amounts in April 2011, when the exchange rates were much better.) At the current exchange rates, I'd probably only pay that much if it's either gold, very large silver (though that's more about the $20-30 range), or an extremely rare country. EDIT: I can't agree with the "always a bargain" comment - I have seen too many dealers whose entire coin inventory consists of common modern coins for ludicrous prices. Though I suppose even then it's theoretically possible that one of them is a really rare variety; and, in any case, as long as we limit it to dealers that sell mostly coins, I agree entirely.
Edited by january1may 10/30/2016 5:14 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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@january1may .... Yes, the key is knowing varieties, errors, tokens, medals, the gamut. My best buys have come almost exclusively from dealer stock and occasional auctions. There are many misattributed pieces out there and unlisted pieces awaiting discovery. My "always a bargain" comment should have been qualified ... discounting the so-called flea market types, purveyors of common, modern stuff. I was thinking of the dealers who carry a wide range of numismatic material, as do many local coin shops here. The company that I cited at the beginning of this thread fits the bill. Their volume and variety works for me.
Edited by ExoGuy 10/30/2016 5:38 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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That was good for a laugh. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have bought a lot of their auction coins, but I agree that even 50% of their asking price for BIN on ebay is ridiculous for many of their coins, and especially the Ancients. I guess it only takes one willing buyer, though. Funny story at any rate! You get that type of customer at any retail venue, I suppose... I certainly had my share of wannabe coupon barons who tried similar tactics.
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