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Well This Could Be Part Of The Problem, With The 20-4-20$, 100-4-100$..etc.

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 Posted 11/17/2016  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
yea, if the fakes coins find there way into real packaging, that would really make matters worse..
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 Posted 11/17/2016  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
i just noticed that on the mint.ca website all the 50$, 100$ and 200$ coins are now not for sale..wonder if it is just a coincidence..


would the mint take the counterfeiters serious now..
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 Posted 11/17/2016  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jackalope to your friends list

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i just noticed that on the mint.ca website all the 50$, 100$ and 200$ coins are now not for sale.


I think that there is a promotion coming up and they don't want the face value coins being used towards that. After Christmas they will all of a sudden reappear and everything will be blamed on the computer "Glitch".
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 Posted 11/17/2016  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nubee to your friends list
@Jackalop - "everything will be blamed on the computer "Glitch"."

RCM has so many of these in their regular daily business so why not (it's almost a joke).

To them ( RCM) it's plausible to sell this to their clients.
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 Posted 11/17/2016  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list
I'm really curious about the source of these fakes. The seller appears to be in Toronto though I suspect most of us associate counterfeits like this as coming out of China.

The ebay seller has also sold "souvenir" art bullion gold and silver coins and notes (obvious fakes), and has some silver for sale currently. There has been no feedback on sales in more than a year.

Has anyone discovered fake x for x coins elsewhere? Is this a one off or more likely, just the tip of the iceberg.

I think the simple designs and finished plus high FV and relatively big mintages make these NCLT much more attractive to counterfeiters than other NCLT coins.
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 Posted 11/17/2016  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikesnickname to your friends list
RCM just archived a lot of the x for x coins including the $200 article coin that was just released.
I wonder if the fakes have anything to do with this.

Edit: sorry just saw silverwolf already posted this.
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11/18/2016 12:15 am
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 Posted 11/18/2016  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucv13 to your friends list
Just realized I still have all or most of the cards/packaging for the 20-25-50 and 100 coins - if anybody wants/needs any of these let me know - you can have them for the cost of shipping
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 Posted 11/18/2016  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SolarPenny to your friends list
There was some discussion about these counterfeits back in June in this other thread:

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...2130#2213464

Since then I still have not come across any other X for X counterfeits besides the $100 eagle. It's nice to see JimmyD pointed out some markers for the counterfeit.
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 Posted 11/18/2016  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list
Pulling the $200 Icy Arctic coin after only one week of release could mean we are looking at a rarity. We don't know how many were shipped out but if only a fraction of the 20,000 were shipped out this coin could be become very valuable.

There is severe shortage of the Icy Arctic at dealers so I suggest people look at buying this coin before stock runs out. There is the possibility that the RCM will not bring the coin back or possibly re-minting the coin with different features to distinguish it from counterfeits.

I don't know of any RCM coins being recalled but stamps from time to time have been recalled due to errors. And those stamps have become valuable.
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11/18/2016 05:08 am
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 Posted 11/18/2016  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
RCM has an obligation to tell its customers what's going on, we shouldn't be left to speculate. They've spent millions on advertising in order to entice people to buy XforX......then what?

They're absolutely horrible in the area of communication - just remove the releases, nothing said whatsoever as if all us morons will just not notice. The arrogance behind their intentional silence is the mark of a typical government organization.

The more this sort of thing continues to happen, the greater satisfaction I get from buying less.
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 Posted 11/18/2016  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SolarPenny to your friends list
Looks like the RCM pulled the X for X coins back out of the archives. They are available for purchase again.
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 Posted 11/18/2016  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jackalope to your friends list

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Looks like the RCM pulled the X for X coins back out of the archives. They are available for purchase again.


That dreaded "Glitch"..........
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 Posted 11/18/2016  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nubee to your friends list
The "Glitch". No different when RCM sends multiple emails for confirmation of orders which were received months ago and nothing from orders which are in your mailbox.

RCM needs to do a total revamp of their systems - OH WAIT they already did that? -

They need to hire competent people (and fire all current staff) from the top down especially quality control.
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 Posted 11/18/2016  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jackalope to your friends list
The biggest "Glitch" is the guy sending letters to everybody promising collector cases and redemption codes. Him and his cronies should be the ones to be gone first "Vice President of Sales", maybe used cars, what a Joke? But of course RCM will have to replace him with a New and Improved "Glitch"and carry on treating their customers like they are morons.
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 Posted 11/18/2016  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikesnickname to your friends list
@jackalope

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Couldn't have said it any better.
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