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Bedrock of the Community
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I suppose now that all types and varieties are now over the 100 mark... Hmmm... where do you get 100? Are you talking every ASE variety issued for each year? Edited by CelticKnot
01/09/2017 6:11 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Apologies for the thread resurrection, but I thought it appropriate after commems mentioned it in the (very cool) OGP Photos thread. I posted a couple years ago about reusing empty ASE 25th Anniversary OGP to house all the Morgan dollars released in 2021; photo below.  The only issue is that the Morgans are smaller in diameter than the ASEs so they are slightly loose in the OGP. Still working, 3 years later, on a solution to that.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Celtic, First things First, Why is it that in an Educational Forum, Like this one, It is considered by some to be Wrong or Rude to Re-visit an Older Posted Thread, ?  Educational information is Key to Knowledge, Especially From Days gone Bye, !!  That out of the way, I believe the Inventiveness of others to be Very interesting, Your 2021 MORGAN's displayed in the Grand Daddy of All ( ASE ) sets, The 2011 25TH Anniversary American Silver Eagles Sets 5-Coin OGP Display. Also, You so Selectively placed the Sweet True 100TH Anniversary MORGAN's inside, WOW....... Thanks for the View   Well Done Celtic !!!!  PS, I might add, If you've seen the Ribbons the U S Dis-Appoint-Mints use. I would search for a Similar looking Sweet Red, White and Blue ribbon and cut a length to extend from Right to left in your display case Over the holes provided and that small expansion Just Might take up enough room to Snug up those Beauties, and Look Sweet Too....... Edited by Morgans Dad
11/27/2024 08:30 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:the Grand Daddy of All ( ASE ) sets Well as long as this is an educational forum. You know my "status" of the ASE sets. I would, shall I say "strongly argue" that the true "grandaddy" would have to be the 1993 Philadelphia Mint Bicentennial set. It was the first time an ASE was ever in a set, a couple years before the "10"th anniversary set (I use quote marks on the 10 because since when is 1995 the 10th anniversary of 1986?). At any rate the Philly Bicentennial set is hard to find, under 13,000 sets made. The regular proof ASE (nothing unique about the ASE) plus 3 gold AGEs. No 1oz, but has the 1/2 oz, 1/4 oz and 1/10th oz. Hard to find one that isn't toned, and it's always an ugly blackish-purpleish tone. Edited by Gilly
11/27/2024 09:02 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:Why is it that in an Educational Forum, Like this one, It is considered by some to be Wrong or Rude to Re-visit an Older Posted Thread, ? Educational information is Key to Knowledge, Especially From Days gone Bye, !! Yeah, I know some people prefer a new topic, but I agree, in general I don't see an issue revisiting an old topic like this if the subject matter is in line with the OP. Quote:
PS, I might add, If you've seen the Ribbons the U S Dis-Appoint-Mints use.
I would search for a Similar looking Sweet Red, White and Blue ribbon and cut a length to extend from Right to left in your display case Over the holes provided and that small expansion Just Might take up enough room to Snug up those Beauties, and Look Sweet Too....... Great idea! Thank you, MD! Jo-Ann Fabrics, here I come. "Sir, um, you only want 2 feet of this ribbon?" Quote:
I would, shall I say "strongly argue" that the true "grandaddy" would have to be the 1993 Philadelphia Mint Bicentennial set. From a chronological perspective, you are of course correct. Otherwise, it is of course subject to opinion. The 5-coin set for me is very special but I understand your arguments too. I also enjoy the 10th anniversary set. Cheers! |
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Quote:I posted a couple years ago about reusing empty ASE 25th Anniversary OGP to house all the Morgan dollars released in 2021; photo below. Very nice!  Quote:The only issue is that the Morgans are smaller in diameter than the ASEs so they are slightly loose in the OGP. Still working, 3 years later, on a solution to that.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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I did something similar for my Lewis & Clark, and Edison commemoratives.  |
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I did something similar for my Lewis & Clark, and Edison commemoratives. Very nice! |
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On the putting the Morgan and Peace dollars in the 25th anniversary set OGP: I would imagine you'd rather not take them out of the original capsules. Otherwise, if you were willing, you could think about sourcing the original ASE capsules for that set. The large dollars are a little smaller and may be loose in the ASE caps, so trading one problem for another. You could then think about if you'd want to try spacer rings? Another thought would be trying to tighten up the holes with felt or something. On the "Grand daddy" comment, right, I would usually associate grand daddy, grandfather, etc with the first set. And it really is significant that they went that long, 8 years, with only bullion and proofs, for the silver eagles, at least the gold eagles they did sell the different denominations together in sets. Of course at least they HAD different denominations, so maybe not a fair comparison. Everyone gets giddy about the 1995 set because the eagle was different, so everyone wants that 95W. But again they did it 2 years earlier, except the ASE is the same as the rest that year, so no excitement over it. So the set doesn't really get it's due, especially when you still have to pay up for the gold in the set, just to end up with a run if the mill and probably ugly toned 1993P proof ASE. After that there was the other little known set, the 1997 Impressions of Liberty set, 1oz ASE, 1 oz gold eagle, 1oz platinum eagle, and it was the first year for the platinum eagle. But here again, you're getting the regular 1997P ASE and needing to pay for the ounce of gold and platinum. But I'd probably have to say it's probably the nicest OGP to have an ASE in it. Plus ALL are serial numbered with matching number on the COA and ALL are hand signed by the mint director, so this is a very, shall we say "exclusive" set. So you have these 3 really significant sets in the 90s, plus the 20th anniversary sets (3 different sets) in 2006 before you get to the 25th anniversary set. Which is a significant anniversary, and has the most ASEs in it than any other set. So definitely a favorite of mine, that's where it becomes a matter of opinion, which one is someone's favorite. |
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Gilly, Your ASE collection Must look Awesome. I know how your Also into All Original Government Packaging, From the U S Mints. I see your comments about the 1993 set and 1997 sets about the rarity of those coins/sets. The ASE Proof that the 1997 set has is the P mint marked example that was declared by the then Mint director Philip H.Diehl to be the Forth lowest minted Proof, ASE to that date. I am seeing the 1995-W mintage is @ 30, 003. ( was 30,125 but the mints own records show this. ) The 1997 has a mintage of 435,368. I am simply asking your opinion on what you stated. You stated the 1997 Impressions of Liberty set was : " But I'd probably have to say it's probably the nicest OGP to have an ASE in it." I ask How the other sets that carry the Same Exact coins, are thought to be Nicer, Rarer? I too collect the American Silver Eagle Series, I think While those sets are Unique in their own setting, The Opinions Greatly Vary. Why would a Set, the 1997 Impressions of Liberty which contains an Philadelphia Mint Marked Proof ASE, carry the Weight you suggest. Because it was presented with Other Starters, Other Attractive coins, ? I simply do Not agree that a Coin that presents itself with a Mintage of 435,368, Could Challenge the , In My Opinion, The Grand-Daddy of All Highly collectible ASE's, The King of All American Silver Eagle Proofs, The West Point 1995-W Proof coin with a mintage of Just 30,003, Not take that Top Grand-Daddy Top position.... Ok the 1995 was Also presented with Other Coins of Interest Too... You also stated : " Everyone gets giddy about the 1995 set because the eagle was different, so everyone wants that 95W. " Giddy, Ok I Love the 1995-W Set. I am Completely Over-Joyed and treat that set as an Honor to Have and Hold... PS, I do not have any of the Other sets We speak of, I consider them getting doubles or Extras of the same coin. Where as you collect All the sets that were released, Sweet .. Collect what you Will..... Your positions on these topics are interesting and I appreciate your Experiences and Knowledge, I am Asking in All Due Respect, Simply Discussing Numismatics, .... Edit: My original Grand-Daddy comment was stated towards the 2011 25TH Anniversary ASE 5-Coin set, That set contains More ASE's than any other . Edited by Morgans Dad
11/29/2024 08:50 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I figured I should upload at least the one image of the 1997 Impressions set. I guess this does become rather subjective or "my opinion". Anyone can certainly argue the quality of one set over another. Certainly the 10th Anniversary set could be consider the "King" of ASE sets, bearing in mind that the AGEs in the set still outweigh the cost of the 1995W, assuming grade 69, which generally is what they get from my observations. I'm not personally into graded ASEs, but seems like at 69 you're looking at the $2000 to $2500 range if you don't care about the label. Just generic labels. Compared to 1.85oz of about 22k gold. But I'd wholeheartedly agree it's the King of sets with an ASE due to the low mintage 1995W in it. The Impressions set, again just bear in mind that I firmly believe I have all the sets. But just look at the quality, the wood, metal hinges, the bag it came in, the rarity (4,965), the cost (about $1,500 in 1997 dollars), and don't forget serial numbered OGP, with serial numbered COA, and all COAs hand signed by the mint director. Not 50, or 230, or at random, ALL of them. But again this is just the OGP, this doesn't take in to account what you are asking, why do I hold this in high regard when it has a fairly mundane 1997P ASE. Again it's the quality of the presentation, I'm just saying it's in my opinion the best OGP with an ASE in it. Hard to argue with, but I'm all ears. It would be one thing if Magic Mike put it together (QVC channel guy), but the US Mint did this. Yes I guess we are just in disagreement over the term Grandpappy. To me it is a lineage thing. The 25th anniversary is a very desirable set and one that most people can aspire to obtain. I feel the price cut off for most people is the 25th anniversary set and the 2019S enhanced reverse proof. To get entire sets after that it gets really expensive really fast and I really had to scrimp, save, and sell things to get some of these sets we're talking about. Wife isn't totally happy about it, but it does take to less space than some of the things I sold off #128517;  Edited by Gilly
11/29/2024 3:54 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Wow, what a set, @Gilly! However I think we're veering off course from the OP's subject matter. Anyone else have any repurposed OGP? I have empty San Francisco ASE OGP that I'm trying to figure out something to do with. Hmmm... |
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
Edited by commems
11/30/2024 11:34 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Your correct, Apologize for My mistake, .... Wrong Area to post, My Apology. |
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Yes you're right. It devolved into this mess when we talked about the reuse of the 25th anniversary ASE set. We then talked about early sets with ASEs in them, which is when we strayed OT. |
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