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 Posted 01/13/2017  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list
The 1881H Single Serif on N and this 1882H DD coin are both really scarce. It seems to me that the 1881H though is much more difficult to get than this coin. Would that be the community's general impression?
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 Posted 01/13/2017  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list
I think the 1881-H single serif N is a lot tougher to find. I would love to find one of those!
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 Posted 01/14/2017  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
That was a great Obv 2/1 heavy doubled and, as Hounddog says, is worth much more than paid. I've collected Vicky large cents(varieties) heavy for over 30 years and only found 3 1881 single serifs. It is, by far, the toughest variety to find, not counting the brass '58 or '59. I can count on less than both hands the number of the single serifs that I even know to be in people's hands. I know of at least 30 of the 2/1 heavy doubling (I've had more than 5 and don't even look any more... it's scarce but certainly not rare.
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 Posted 01/14/2017  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list
Okie, I've never had a single serif 1881 in hand. And I've looked...a lot. I wish Canadian Trends was expanded to give some of these coins the profile and prominence they're due. It's time.
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 Posted 01/14/2017  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
The only Vicky candidate I can think of for "as rare as" or "rarer" than a 1881H Single Serif N is the 1882H Triple Hub Obverse.

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/32729650
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 Posted 01/14/2017  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Here's a rarer one
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"Spooned" Vickies are really hard to find.

"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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01/14/2017 9:07 pm
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 Posted 01/14/2017  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
touche...that being said, I've only ever had one spooned Vicky
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 Posted 01/14/2017  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Well the title is "Bushwackers Banquet" I couldn't resist.
Sorry.
Always enjoy seeing your acquisitions on this forum.
You have a keen eye for finding and acquiring varieties.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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01/14/2017 9:20 pm
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 Posted 01/14/2017  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Until today I had never even heard of a "triple hub obverse" .. it must be some kind of newly named anomoly. It is not rare or even scarce. I've had at least 8 or so of them. We didn't even put that what we called "doubled" into the 65th edition of Charlton. There were too many varieties for 1882 that we had already decided to include. I also never thought that this variety was ever totally hub-doubled (or tripled)
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01/14/2017 9:25 pm
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 Posted 01/14/2017  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
I have not been as fortunate. I have 10 1882 Double Dies and only 2 1882 Triple dies. It's been years since I've seen one anywhere and I have not seen any at any major auction in 5 years.

Wherever they are hiding, I will find them and I will....buy them.

p.s. thank you DBM
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 Posted 01/15/2017  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list
I don't think the triple 1882-H will turn out to be quite as rare as the 1881-H single serif N, but it's such an impressive coin, especially when you look at Zonad's high grade piece. Even in low grades the tripling shows boldly in the letters of GRATIA REGINA even though you can't see it in the ribbons, hair and crown.

This is a detail photo of part of REGINA on a low grade G-VG coin that was cleaned. The tripling shows on GRATIA as well.

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This is how it looks today after retoning.



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01/15/2017 07:48 am
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 Posted 01/15/2017  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
My previous post about the tripled 1882 is in error. We were talking about the 1881 single serif in the thread and my mind went to the partially doubled/tripled 1881, not 1882, where the doubling is not "round-the-clock" but showing mostly on Gratia and Regina. The 1882 is a different story and it is very scarce, just like the single serif. I think that it was the term "hub-tripled" that threw me. I'd never heard it before, but I really don't buy or ebay hunt any more .. I've got thousands and thousands that I haven't even looked at in seemingly years. I've somewhat lost the searching itch.
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 Posted 01/15/2017  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Wow..I love the re-toning..!!

Would you explain the steps involved to get a shinny cleaned cent back to that nice darker patina please..?
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 Posted 01/15/2017  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list
It was a three step process DEVLEC.

1. I handled the coin a lot with my hands.

2. I laid it in the windowsill a number of times in direct bright sunlight. (daily for about 2 or 3 weeks, equal time obverse and reverse)

3. I stored it in an old yellow coin envelope between times. (Probably had sulfur in it to help the toning)

I would say it takes about 6 months to a year to get it that way, but it was about the most natural way I could come up with to get a decent tone back on a coin so brightly cleaned. Without the windowsill treatment it takes even longer.
I've tried shortcuts (chemicals and or heat) but I don't like the results as well. I don't figure I can do much damage to the coin this way since it's a lot like how coins tone naturally anyway.
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 Posted 01/17/2018  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
The coin that started this thread is now back from PCGS.

XF40 details because of the face scratches.

https://www.PCGS.com/cert/34661614

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01/17/2018 6:24 pm
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