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Possible 1976-S Kennedy Business Strike Clad?

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 Posted 02/22/2017  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Calvab to your friends list
Neat!! I would have thought the 40%'s would not show the clad layer...?

Thanks for the quick reply... this forum is fantastic!!
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 Posted 02/22/2017  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add batboy to your friends list
Three different Kennedy half dollars were minted with the S mint mark in 1976:

1976-S clad proof
1976-S 40% silver BU
1976-S 40% silver proof

If this coin is not a proof, then as Sherlock Holmes always said: "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Meaning if it's not a proof then it's the 40% silver clad from an uncirculated mint set that somehow escaped captivity and roamed the circulated wilderness for a while. Precise weighing is about the only way to tell for sure.

PS: Most of the 40% silver clad Kennedys do show a little copper on the edge, but I've seen a good percentage that looked all silver too.
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 Posted 02/22/2017  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
with bat edges can be deceiving usually mostly silver but some may show a hint of copper-that said I think it looks like a 40 also
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 Posted 02/22/2017  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
It's not a proof, but I have to agree it doesn't look like a 40% silver coin either. Any chance of doing a tissue test of this coin with both a coppernickel clad and another 40% silver coin?
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 Posted 02/23/2017  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Calvab to your friends list
I always thought the tissue test was a joke... but, looks like folks are saying it works. I'll give it a try and will also try to get my hands on a digital scale.
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 Posted 02/23/2017  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
tissue test is no joke. It works because silver is the most reflective of all metals reflecting something like 94% of allthe light that hits it. The clad composition only reflects something like 60%. SO a much greater percentage of the light that passes through the tissue and hits the silver coin comes back through the tissue making it appear much whiter than a clad coin under the tissue. Now if the coins are heavily toned it can cause it to fail but your coin doesn look to have much toning.
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 Posted 02/23/2017  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thulium to your friends list
I don't see a 40% coin--I see toned copper on the edge--I adjusted the OP's picture some.
That said, I suspect it's an impaired/circulated proof coin.

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 Posted 02/23/2017  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I do not think it is a proof. Check the bay for photos. There is no sign of a cameo and the rim is not squared off like a proof would be.
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 Posted 02/23/2017  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
Still looks like a 40 to me
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 Posted 02/23/2017  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It works. You can even do it with coins in the collection books without removing them from the albums.
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a single layer of tissue is all you need and a silver coin. This does not work on toned coins. But the normal colored coins it works fine. (not discolored)
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I do not think it is a proof. Check the bay for photos
Yes--I know what modern unimpaired proofs look like, and I also know how much circulation can knock down the surfaces--and cameo of a proof. But in this case, I think I see the suggestions of cameo left on this coin. Below I've improved the contrast of the photo somewhat--look at the reflective quality of the bust vs. fields. However, I'd need to see the coin in-hand to feel more certain--I think that would clinch it.

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 Posted 02/24/2017  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Calvab to your friends list
ok - I did the tissue test... the coin of interest is third from the top (top two are 40%, bottom four are clad)... it appears to be clad:


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So, I broke the rules, with a soft cloth, I rubbed the coin a little... sure enough, it was covered with grease...

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It is definitely a clad proof!!

I didn't rub off all of the grease... I didn't want to scratch the surface.

Thanks all for weighing in!
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 Posted 02/24/2017  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
An impaired proof is still a nice find.

Thank you for sharing the results.
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 Posted 02/24/2017  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Calvab to your friends list
I was really surprised how much the grease/haze made the coin look like a business strike. My Dad took this coin out of circulation in the late 1970's... it couldn't have been in the wild for more than a couple of years. Any chance this could have come from the mint this way? If only coins could talk!

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