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1875-S Raw Double Dime

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 Posted 03/04/2017  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Toughts on grade and problems stiil appreciated. As an aside, courtesy of Brunner and Frost:

1875-S-Raw-Double-Dime
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 03/04/2017  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list
slight rub on hair and breast...AU-58 SLIDER

BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE!
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 Posted 03/04/2017  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Thanks atlashealth. This is the Brunner and Frost grading section plate coin in their Double Dimes reference book. Looks pretty similar.

1875-S-Raw-Double-Dime
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 03/04/2017  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
AU55. I cant determine if the surfaces are original or not however I will point out a section on the right of the obverse that is darker in color and what appears to be swipe marks across it. take a closer look at the area.
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 Posted 03/04/2017  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I'm with panzaldi at AU55. Nice die crack with chip on the reverse. No call on the surfaces, but it doesn't look unattractive to me.
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Looks to me like an early state die strike based on the surfaces that appear to have a proof-like quality and razor sharp devices.

Toning is milky, dark in spots, and sometimes streaky - which might be indicative of a dip. Hairlines may indicate a wipe.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 03/04/2017  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good analysis, can't disagree. At least 55, probably 58.
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Quote:
Toning is milky, dark in spots, and sometimes streaky - which might be indicative of a dip. Hairlines may indicate a wipe

I have a quarter that has this same look:


1875-S-Raw-Double-Dime
AU-58
My 20c is a XF-45


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 Posted 03/04/2017  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
AU-55.
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Thanks folks. Beautiful coins johntookit. My Seated quarter is XF45.

I have a brother named John and I do recall remarking many times that he took it, whatever that was.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 03/05/2017  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
That's a nice one! I'm at AU-58 and looks original to me. I had it at AU-55 but the stars look struck up real nice.
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AU-55
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 Posted 03/05/2017  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
Oh and I'd pay $425.00-$450.00 for it.
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 Posted 03/06/2017  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Thanks to all for your input. I got this in the mail today and it is just as advertised. Apparently these folks take better pictures than I do.

Was able to pay $350 for this and would appreciate your thoughts on the price.

1875-S-Raw-Double-Dime
1875-S-Raw-Double-Dime
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 03/06/2017  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
$350.00 is a very good price. Your example has a great strike. In the series, so often the stars are not fully struck and yours all 13 are struck up. Some hairlines on the obverse but perhaps it was just the angle it was taken. Like this coin a lot.
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