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1875-S Raw Double Dime

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I purchased this today and would appreciate your thoughts on grade and what you might pay for it. Price paid revealed in 48 hours.

Purchased it from an outfit out in CA called coinstacker which also does business as California Numismatic Funding. They seem to be well reviewed online, but was wondering whether folks have had experience dealing with this seller. Many thanks.

1875-S-Raw-Double-Dime
1875-S-Raw-Double-Dime
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Textbook dipped?
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Original.
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Toughts on grade and problems stiil appreciated. As an aside, courtesy of Brunner and Frost:

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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slight rub on hair and breast...AU-58 SLIDER

BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE!
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Thanks atlashealth. This is the Brunner and Frost grading section plate coin in their Double Dimes reference book. Looks pretty similar.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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AU55. I cant determine if the surfaces are original or not however I will point out a section on the right of the obverse that is darker in color and what appears to be swipe marks across it. take a closer look at the area.
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I'm with panzaldi at AU55. Nice die crack with chip on the reverse. No call on the surfaces, but it doesn't look unattractive to me.
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Looks to me like an early state die strike based on the surfaces that appear to have a proof-like quality and razor sharp devices.

Toning is milky, dark in spots, and sometimes streaky - which might be indicative of a dip. Hairlines may indicate a wipe.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Good analysis, can't disagree. At least 55, probably 58.
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Quote:
Toning is milky, dark in spots, and sometimes streaky - which might be indicative of a dip. Hairlines may indicate a wipe

I have a quarter that has this same look:


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AU-58
My 20c is a XF-45


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AU-55.
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Thanks folks. Beautiful coins johntookit. My Seated quarter is XF45.

I have a brother named John and I do recall remarking many times that he took it, whatever that was.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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That's a nice one! I'm at AU-58 and looks original to me. I had it at AU-55 but the stars look struck up real nice.
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AU-55
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Oh and I'd pay $425.00-$450.00 for it.
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