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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Too much glare and out of focus. AU grade from the photos.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks fsb from the pics.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
10743 Posts |
Nice Mercury.  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Looks fsb from the pics. Not looking to put you down ,but I feel a need to educate you on FSB's as well as a few other areas of coins in general . But for now ,for a Mercury dime to be designated FSB all bands must be fully separated with NO interruptions . NOT fused together by wear or weak strike . Again ,this post is solely meant to help young numismatics learn the different stages of the hobby . Hopefully the Mercury dime experts will chime in on this , giving further information .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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AU58 and I agree with T-BOP on FSB. its important for grading to know what the standards are for various designations. this will help folks in their endeavors to progress in the their grading skills.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU-58. It would fit nicely in my set!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Not looking to put you down ,but I feel a need to educate you on FSB's as well as a few other areas of coins in general . I don't feel the need to educate you. Only the center bands need to be split for the fb designation. I have previously given you a reference to TPG standards that clearly state this. I would like to see where you find the published grading standard that supports your grading standard. Here it is again in case you forgot. https://www.PCGS.com/News/Mercury-D...h-Full-BandsIN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
04/04/2017 5:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is where I disagree in TPG practice with FB designation, if there was 2 same MS grade and one has nearly full strike vs one that have weaker strike in the band area at top and bottom. I would for sure not label it FB to the one that doesn't have it split top and bottom. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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 When it comes to Fully Split Bands, I want all bands to be split, no matter what TPG companies say. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I respect your opinions. I differ with the TPGs too from time to time. I just object to someone "educating" me on their opinion as if it were an actual grading standard like an earlier poster tried to do.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Didn't mean to offend you , but it does seem like the majority feels that all bands must be split . Maybe Coop can settle this controversy FSB once and for all .
Also calling on Coinfrog , Moxking , Billjones ,for futher info .
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8137 Posts |
I was always taught that all the bands must be split.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
18700 Posts |
this will be a matter of debate between collectors and TPG's. some collectors will stand by the grading standards of the TPG's and some may not. I believe at one time NGC required all 3 bands to be split for the designation but I think they changed that position. from my standpoint its "Full Split Bands" not BAND. in any case, I have and always will require all 3 from a collector standpoint to meet that requirement and would not purchase a FSB coin where all 3 were not, therefore when I grade for this I will apply that standard. my question to the TPG's would be why require both bands on the Roosevelt to receive the FT designation and not all three on Mercury to receive the FB designation? they both require an early die state that was fully struck. This should be clarified by the TPG's decision to set the standard |
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Bedrock of the Community
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