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Encrusted Old Coins Now Have Details Showing Need To Identify Please Help

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 Posted 05/04/2017  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ANumismaticFather to your friends list
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 Posted 05/04/2017  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ANumismaticFather to your friends list
I do not plan on cleaning Coin#1 any further. I believe it will only harm the coin. I want to know which would preserve the coin better coating of olive oil, or Vaseline? Then I am going to permanently seal the coin away in a hard case.
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 Posted 05/04/2017  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
That's a Constantinopolis commemorative - 'victory on prow', isn't it?
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 Posted 05/04/2017  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ANumismaticFather to your friends list
Some coins will have to wait a couple days before enough of the image is visible in my opinion, but I will post a picture at the end of this cleaning today of the group of them.
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The coin I scratched
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The remainder that need time to soak.


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 Posted 05/04/2017  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bsr045 to your friends list
could you describe your cleaning process? these coins look very harshly cleaned and in very poor quality, they all look like late roman bronze coins, very common and probably not worth more than you originally paid.
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 Posted 05/04/2017  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list

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This material encrusting them is extremely tough. Any other safe methods other than olive oil



It is possible that the hard material you are struggling to remove is patina. That should not be removed.

Olive oil is where you need to start, but not for a day or two per coin. Use it for WEEKS at a time per coin.

Do not use brass or other metal brushes for harsh cleaning.

More of the detail of a coin will be preserved if you use a very gentle, light touch with your cleaning, and do not hurry (anxious as you may be to see the design).
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This all appear to be Late Roman Bronze coins (LRB), sadly their condition is bad and no amount of further cleaning will help.

These are a good source to learn how to clean ancient coins. This being a good example of what not to do. Cleaning is a slow process either by soaking the coin in distilled water or olive oil to soften the encrustations. Than using a soft brush to remove the layers of dirt without removing the patina on the coin. Hard bristly wire brushes are a no-no.
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Thank you all for your input, and I did accelerate the process in theses last few days. I began by reading that you soak your coins in olive oil to loosen the crust from the coin. In everything I read and watched it was suppose to get much softer and flake/crumb off fairly easy. Never had that happen. First soak was 3 or 4 days. I used a toothbrush and soapy distilled water; with plain distilled rinse. There was almost no change in the density or thickness of crust. So I began allowing the coins to soak in bags for a week at a time. Then about a week ago I ran across an article and videos about adding heat to your olive oil coin bath. I used a small gas burner on low for 15 minute intervals, then 30, and the 45 minuter intervals. finally some of the crust gave way with the addition of a toothpick like demonstrated, and a size able amount of pressure. In demonstration it was described as just about no pressure to remove the crust. So I began to think that someone had spilled glue or paint etc. on the coin to from that hard of an exterior. I used the wrong muscle. I should have researched how to for example use a pool test kit to perhaps identify the material incasing the coin to find alternative methods of degrading the integrity of the coins crust. I now realized a second lesson was learned in that moment; when you are tired take your butt to bed. So I obviously pressed on using the wrong muscle and removed the crust down to the coin. While I read and watched a couple videos I was giving the coins another warm bath. Final thoughts were to get the coins more visible to post. Ah, look here third lesson the fool rushed. It may have been a less that perfect trip, but I thoroughly enjoyed the challenge and I am always ready to learn more through research. Alright Critique me further GO ;-)
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 Posted 05/04/2017  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
@ANF, you have a great attitude and I hope that you stick around CCF. There are several really knowledgeable folk here (and then others like me who are still learning). Hopefully you didn't pay a ton for that lot of coins. If nothing else, you learned how to take some great pics of your coin.
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 Posted 05/05/2017  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list
I have only one thing to say about your coins...

R.I.P.

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I have only one thing to say about your coins...

R.I.P.
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 Posted 05/17/2017  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ANumismaticFather to your friends list
Thank you Spence, and I only paid twenty dollars for 400 wheat pennies, some amazing old bus tokens, 5 Indian head pennies, 6 Buffalo nickels, a ton of world coins half are silver, and those 9 encrusted coins. I am not going anywhere, and I look forward to the future. Sorry for the late reply, but I am in the middle of moving right now. I have a vast amount of rare coins and they all go to my sons coin collecting. I am blessed with a son who appreciates this hobby. He calls the good ones diamonds, and he is so lucky when we are roll hunting lol! Little stinker opened three rolls of halves the other day, and found one proof and 2 silver JFK. That son of mine is amazing :-)
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