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Best Way To Spend $500 On US Coin

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 Posted 05/29/2017  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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A none common $2.50 Quarter Eagel
or even a $5 half eagle, if you can find one for that money.
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in NGC or PCGS plastic
Only if you swing that way.
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I think gold is in a long term downtrend. I would stay away.
It could be, but a gold coin you buy for $500 (if it's not a $1 gold) is guaranteed to still be worth at least a quarter of that for the foreseeable future, which most emphatically isn't the case for anything else.

On second thought, this seems to go against the spirit of your prohibition on bullion. If so... no idea. Classic proof of some kind?
(The capped bust half suggestion seems nice though. But I'm really not a US coin collector.)
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 Posted 05/29/2017  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover1899 to your friends list
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 Posted 05/29/2017  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list

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Common date Morgans MS65 and below trend with the price of silver. The MS65 common date Morgan has indeed dropped in value most likely because the low price on silver. On the recent price guides the common date Morgans MS62, 63, 64 have increased in price. Is this because the Morgan silver stack buyers are not buying the common date MS65 and investing in the 62, 63 and 64 common dates?

If and when silver takes another run to $40 an ounce, the common date MS65 will go up in price with the silver price increase.


The flaw with your logic is that the price of MS-65 was still falling while silver was rising. I had an MS-65 Morgan that I got in 2006, and I watched it go down in value every year. Luckily, it was a prize, so I didn't pay anything for it. Also, the premium is large enough for it to not be affected by the silver price.
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 Posted 05/29/2017  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
All coins except the six figure and above investment coins have dropped since the mid 2000s after the economy went in the crapper. When we have a great economy we have more disposable income and coin prices rise. Get ready for a boom guys!!
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 Posted 05/29/2017  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Here is a chart using the common date 1881 S Morgan MS65 against silver showing it follows the price of silver. Silver took a bump up in 2008 the 1881 S MS 65 went up in 2008, and in 2011 silver peaked at $52.94 and you can see the price of the 1881 S MS65 went up.

The red line is silver and the green line is the 1881 S MS 65.

On common date MS65 Morgans the price of silver has more impact on the price of the coin than the populations totals.

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 Posted 05/29/2017  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
Hm. That jump was not recorded in any of my Red Books. I guess it was very short-lived.
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 Posted 05/29/2017  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
I'm a financial zombie, fellas. What caused silver to spike so high over 2011 into 2012? Apparently I started stacking at the right time in late 2013 after it dropped. Any indications to watch for a future increase? Please no long answers, I'm too old and eyes glaze over if more than 150 words...
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 Posted 05/29/2017  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
In 2011 the confidence in the economy was still at a low and investors were looking at other ways to make money outside of the stock market. The historical gold to silver price had been 16 to 1, but gold had surged and this ratio was was put of balance. Investors started buying up silver because it was cheap compared to gold. The heavy buying created a shortage in the high purity bars and a false shortage of silver.

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 Posted 05/29/2017  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
So it was just a fluke, not something to expect in the near future...? At least until prior to next election cycle...
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 Posted 05/29/2017  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list

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Mike, why do you say that about gold?


The gold to silver ratio has been out of whack from historical norms for a very long time. I don't believe it is sustainable.

My thinking is gold will drop like it did in the eighties and nineties. A long slow painful downtrend.

Commodity boom and bust cycles normally take decades. Oil futures are in a similar downtrend. The author of this post was looking for American coins for $500 that wouldn't lose value. That's why I said that.

Here's a recent article. But feel free to google 'gold to silver ratio' to learn more. https://www.fool.com/investing/2017...e-are-3.aspx
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 Posted 05/30/2017  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Id buy myself a nice piece of gold...probable a nice $5 gold Commemorative graded at either MS or PR70!
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 Posted 05/30/2017  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I'd do the opposite of what most would do. I would simply buy or try to buy $500 worth of Mercury dimes and try to make a new Album.
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 Posted 05/31/2017  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Donnie Darko to your friends list
I'm a gold guy so I'd get a nice $5 Indian for $500.
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 Posted 05/31/2017  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list
I'd invest in a semi-key date coin such as a 21-D Merc, 09-S Indian, or 14-D Lincoln (as examples.) Either that or a CC coin.

Those coins will hold value.
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 Posted 05/31/2017  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grumpy56 to your friends list
I was also thinking of a slabbed low grade key date, perhaps a 1916-D Mercury, or higher grade 1909-S Lincoln perhaps. Probably won't appreciate much, but don't think you would ever lose money and it's a neat thing to have considering its scarcity.
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