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From what I've read on here they say not to get a coin graded unless it's worth over $500 otherwise your doing it just because you want to.
Edited by Willburton 08/05/2018 8:37 pm
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Quote: From what I've read on here they say not to get a coin graded unless it's worth over $500 otherwise It is recommended if the coin value is $200.00 or more.
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Welcome doogie. I recommend creating a new thread for your coins in question.
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What ever happened here? Did u send it out? I a 1958 penny same issue
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Quote: More food for thought,
Philadelphia produced coinage for - Peru Year: 1942 Denomination: 5 Centavos Composition: 70% copper, 30%zinc Weight 3.00grams Diameter: 17.00mm
Note: again the weight and diameter. I'm thinking at this point the potential for blanking U.S. Cents from the wrong or foreign stock is a more likely possibility than struck on an actual foreign planchet. I'll let someone else do the math. Pending if the math does or does not compute, then as mentioned rolled thick stock is a likely suspect. Thanks, Doug. A cent planchet punched from the Peru 5 centavo stock would weigh 3.37 grams (close enough to the OP coin to be possible). Punched from the Ecuador 20 centavos stock it would weigh 3.63 grams (Too heavy). The Peru stock planchet could be a possibility, but 70% copper 30% zinc is cartridge brass which tends to be much more yellow than the regular cent stock and is more tarnish resistant. The alloy is different enough from that of the regular alloy that it should be identifiable by specific gravity or an XRF gun.
Edited by Conder101 07/07/2020 11:26 pm
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Quote: A cent planchet punched from the Peru 5 centavo stock would weigh 3.37 grams.... I agree wholeheartedly about the XRF "gun" analysis. But if it was a Peruvian planchet (17mm struck diameter on the chart) that expanded to 19mm, this could explain the added weight without the added thickness on the OP's coin. I would imagine the Peru planchet would be smaller in diameter (16mm maybe?) to fit in the collar for the 5 Centaco coin.
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Edited by Petespockets55 07/08/2020 07:09 am
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A peruvian PLANCHET struck by cent dies would still only weigh 3 grams, and it most likely would not expand out to the 19 mm diameter of a cent (dime planchets are larger in diameter than the peruvian planchet and they don't reach 19 mm when struck by cent dies). But a CENT planchet punched from the Peruvian 5 centavo stock strip would have the proper diameter, weigh 3.37 grams and be a yellow brass color.
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Thanks Condor1 for correcting my thought process and Coop for those experimental coin images.
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Quote: Keep in mind there were also using test planchets, to determine what they were going to use in 1943. True but they were trying to either replace or SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the use of copper in the cent. The regular cent used 2.95 grams of copper, a 3.37 gram 70% copper planchet would still be 2.36 grams of copper. Almost certainly not a large enough reduction to be considered.
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Does this count? 
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 to the Community, caseih99! Did you buy this?
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Thanks for posting that image Caseih99.
It sure does look like it qualifies. Looks like ANACS might need to update the holder to include the " Punched from Peruvian stock" if it gets sent back in.
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No, I did not make that purchase . I, too, was searching for information on a similar coin. I came across this forum 1st, then the latter, in which I posted, in hopes of it being of use. (How I agonized over this!)  "To post or not to post?", thats the question I avoid answering with, "As an asshat.", as much as possible.. Thank you for the welcome and to all, for the knowledge you share.
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