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1942 Wheat Penny Weighing 3.30 Grams

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 Posted 08/05/2018  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
From what I've read on here they say not to get a coin graded unless it's worth over $500 otherwise your doing it just because you want to.
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 Posted 08/06/2018  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list

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From what I've read on here they say not to get a coin graded unless it's worth over $500 otherwise


It is recommended if the coin value is $200.00 or more.
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 Posted 08/07/2018  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NLL to your friends list
Welcome doogie. I recommend creating a new thread for your coins in question.
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 Posted 07/07/2020  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carmdogg708 to your friends list
What ever happened here? Did u send it out? I a 1958 penny same issue
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 Posted 07/07/2020  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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More food for thought,

Philadelphia produced coinage for -
Peru
Year: 1942
Denomination: 5 Centavos
Composition: 70% copper, 30%zinc
Weight 3.00grams
Diameter: 17.00mm

Note: again the weight and diameter. I'm thinking at this point the potential for blanking U.S. Cents from the wrong or foreign stock is a more likely possibility than struck on an actual foreign planchet. I'll let someone else do the math. Pending if the math does or does not compute, then as mentioned rolled thick stock is a likely suspect. Thanks, Doug.

A cent planchet punched from the Peru 5 centavo stock would weigh 3.37 grams (close enough to the OP coin to be possible). Punched from the Ecuador 20 centavos stock it would weigh 3.63 grams (Too heavy). The Peru stock planchet could be a possibility, but 70% copper 30% zinc is cartridge brass which tends to be much more yellow than the regular cent stock and is more tarnish resistant. The alloy is different enough from that of the regular alloy that it should be identifiable by specific gravity or an XRF gun.
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 Posted 07/08/2020  07:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list

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A cent planchet punched from the Peru 5 centavo stock would weigh 3.37 grams....

I agree wholeheartedly about the XRF "gun" analysis.

But if it was a Peruvian planchet (17mm struck diameter on the chart) that expanded to 19mm, this could explain the added weight without the added thickness on the OP's coin.
I would imagine the Peru planchet would be smaller in diameter (16mm maybe?) to fit in the collar for the 5 Centaco coin.
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 Posted 07/08/2020  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
A peruvian PLANCHET struck by cent dies would still only weigh 3 grams, and it most likely would not expand out to the 19 mm diameter of a cent (dime planchets are larger in diameter than the peruvian planchet and they don't reach 19 mm when struck by cent dies). But a CENT planchet punched from the Peruvian 5 centavo stock strip would have the proper diameter, weigh 3.37 grams and be a yellow brass color.
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 Posted 07/08/2020  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Keep in mind there were also using test planchets, to determine what they were going to use in 1943.
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Thanks Condor1 for correcting my thought process and Coop for those experimental coin images.
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 Posted 07/10/2020  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Keep in mind there were also using test planchets, to determine what they were going to use in 1943.

True but they were trying to either replace or SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the use of copper in the cent. The regular cent used 2.95 grams of copper, a 3.37 gram 70% copper planchet would still be 2.36 grams of copper. Almost certainly not a large enough reduction to be considered.
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 Posted 07/03/2023  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add caseih99 to your friends list
Does this count?
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Thanks for posting that image Caseih99.

It sure does look like it qualifies. Looks like ANACS might need to update the holder to include the " Punched from Peruvian stock" if it gets sent back in.
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No, I did not make that purchase . I, too, was searching for information on a similar coin. I came across this forum 1st, then the latter, in which I posted, in hopes of it being of use. (How I agonized over this!) "To post or not to post?", thats the question I avoid answering with, "As an asshat.", as much as possible.. Thank you for the welcome and to all, for the knowledge you share.
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