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Sacagawea Dollar Classic Design?

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 Posted 07/07/2017  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
The Sac alloy tarnishes very quickly, especially if not in circulation, leaving a most unattractive appearance compared to its original impression.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
So what was the official reason for putting the date on the edge? It sounds like a really bizarre thing to do.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
I'm not quite sure. But I can tell you there was plenty of room on the obverse for the date and MM.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Very obviously American, I don't think a man in the street in another Country to America would have much trouble in identifying it as American.

Classic American? No.

Classic American to me means NEO Classic American where the design has been inspired the best traditions of the high period in ancient Greek Art.
The best examples of NEO Classic American numismatic art are:
1. the gold Pan Pac $50 Half Union
2. the silver Weinman Half Dollar
3. the St Gaudens $20 Double Eagle.

4. the Liberty Seated dollar, and
5. the Trade dollar
are honorable mentions.

BOTH the obverse AND the reverse of the top three above carry design examples of Neo Classic American art inspired by the ancient Greeks.
The last two could derive some of their design inspiration from Roman Imperial coinage, and Roman Colonial coinage, as well as from classic Greek coinage.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
I am not a fan at all of the edge-incused dates and MMs. Maybe the IGWT motto or something else, but as jbuck said, it is a nightmare for collectors who use albums.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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I am not a fan at all of the edge-incused dates and MMs. Maybe the IGWT motto or something else, but as jbuck said, it is a nightmare for collectors who use albums.
- and even for classic coins it's often a pain working out the edge variety, because it so easily wears (and/or corrodes) away.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
Original post update:

The Sac eagle and the Flying Eagle really don't resemble each other at all. I was just trying to find an example of an eagle from the "classic" period of US coins, and the FE was the only one with its wings outstretched.

But I still do think that the Sac reverse was patterned after the classic designs of the 19th century.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
I just read the official mint explanation for removing the date and motto from the obverse/reverse faces of the coin and putting them on the edge: It gave the artists more room for their designs.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
That same space where the date/mm were on the Sacs are still there. Same design so no good reason to remove it.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I just read the official mint explanation for removing the date and motto from the obverse/reverse faces of the coin and putting them on the edge: It gave the artists more room for their designs.
That makes sense for the Native American dollars reverse, but no reason to move the date. For the presidential series, the term information takes up a lot of room, so the date had to be moved.
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 Posted 07/09/2017  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list

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That makes sense for the Native American dollars reverse, but no reason to move the date.


What? Are you saying that the mint did something that didn't make any sense?
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 Posted 07/10/2017  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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and the FE was the only one with its wings outstretched.

I think the Sac reverse is more similar to the rev of the Standing Liberty quarter which also has the wings outstretched.
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 Posted 07/10/2017  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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What? Are you saying that the mint did something that didn't make any sense?
No, I am saying that congress instructed the mint to do something that did not make any sense.
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 Posted 07/10/2017  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list

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I think the Sac reverse is more similar to the rev of the Standing Liberty quarter which also has the wings outstretched.


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 Posted 07/12/2017  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
You're absolutely right! I guess I didn't catch that because they're facing in opposite directions.
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