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1889 CC Found By A Friend.

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 Posted 07/08/2017  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
XF'ish. Send it to ANACS for authentication and grading.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jovian to your friends list
Thanks for the info. It does look close to VAM 5. Difficult even with the original higher res photos. I can not find the die scratches above T of LIBERTY or the pitting in the neck wing gap as described. I will try to get close up photos of these regions tomorrow as well.

Also, is there a reason everyone who has mentioned grading on both threads said use ANACS? Is there something about Morgans with ANACS? I don't have a hangup about any of the three but PCGS usually brings more at auction. The owner is strongly considering selling.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list
It actually looks real.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
ANACS can grade and authenticate the coin in less than 30 days. PCGS and NGC have longer turnaround times UNLESS you pay for a faster service.

Work a deal with your friend to buy the coin based on the results from ANACS. You can then market the coin at your leisure and make a few bucks for yourself.

I do not believe the coin is AU. More like XF.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jovian to your friends list
Thanks for the link Chute. As the title said, killer price. I'll see if I can dig up a few to go with it. I think I could get the count to 8 for that price.

Edit: I looked at the restrictions, minimum 5 coins with a max value of $500 each. This coin is $2,500 easily at XF-40 or maybe more. This coin is not eligible for the deal, but I can still make use of it.
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 Posted 07/12/2017  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Another reason to use ANACS is the person who attributes Morgan dollars is John Roberts. He is one of the best in the business.
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 Posted 08/08/2017  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list
Actually, I got to speak with John Roberts and J.P. Martin over the ANA World's Fair. It was awesome, as Morgan dollars are my specialty.
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Nice Coin197. John is nothing less than a Morgan master.
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 Posted 10/11/2017  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin_Operator to your friends list
Any update on this? I'm curious!
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 Posted 10/12/2017  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liquidsilver7 to your friends list
X2. My first coin I ever bought was a morgan
And yet ive still do not have this year
Morgan!
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 Posted 10/17/2017  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ron6788 to your friends list
I'm not an expert on VAMs but the date looks suspicious on this one. There was clearly another number under the 9. Looks like it was 1885 or 1883. As well, the 9 is way high and out of line.

If this coin was "found" or a "steal", I'd be plenty wary.
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 Posted 10/17/2017  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I'm not an expert on VAMs but the date looks suspicious on this one. There was clearly another number under the 9. Looks like it was 1885 or 1883. As well, the 9 is way high and out of line.


That 9 location is known and common for the year, so less of a worry than it would be from a different date.

Any 1889-CC found raw is worthy of healthy skepticism, of course, and I'm not really so sure about this one - the mint mark doesn't match up to anything known for me. The two C's don't seem to match each other for size and shape, and the "drop" on the second one needs to me more pronounced for VAM-5. It's also too far to the left. There are only two Far Date 1889-CC's, and this mint mark doesn't look good for either of them.
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 Posted 06/22/2020  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doug Treasure to your friends list
I know this is a VERY OLD post, but since I didn't really ever see any real outcome of the post, I figured I would chime in. I also own an authentic 1889 CC, and the coin in question here is without question a fake. There were red flags in every photo of it. Aside from all the other tell-tale signs, the wobbly/wavy fonts of "AMERICA" on the reverse were DEAD GIVE-AWAYS as it being a fake 1889 CC. Just no way in heck it is authentic. I've closely scrutinized many real and counterfeit Morgans, and there is no doubt whatsoever this is another FAKE!
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