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You've done a commendable job of listing those details with considerable accuracy.
I quit buying PCGS FBL specifically because of their rather lax definition.
On the other hand, NGC is so tough that it takes forever to build a set.
Franklin's seem to be upgraded far to often from AU to MS for raw coins. I gave up on trying to buy what appeared to be high MS based on photos of raw.
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I never understood why PCGS doesn't look at the top set of lines.
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I never understood why PCGS doesn't look at the top set of lines. Thee almighty dollar? Could be why Tomaskas sells NGC FBL's on his TV show and Coin Vault sells PCGS FBL's |
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Maybe it's just me , but I will always go with top lines only.  |
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top lines only. Then how is that Full Bell Lines? |
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Right now there are 9 different people that think it's a FBL Benjie .  |
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Just going to throw the pics of that ebay coin here so people in the future can actually see what I'm talking about.   |
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Right now there are 9 different people that think it's a FBL Benjie . More like 9 people that think that since the label says FBL it must be a FBL coin. After all it's PCGS, are you going to believe your eyes or what the label says. In todays hobby often it's the label that is more important. |
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More like 9 people that think that since the label says FBL it must be a FBL coin. After all it's PCGS, are you going to believe your eyes or what the label says. In todays hobby often it's the label that is more important. I'm probably the only one, but I almost treat PCGS as I would SEGS or PCI. I think PCGS is for the 'I really don't know anything about coins, but if they it's XX, it must be..' crowd. I've seen a number of questionable slabs from PCGS, moreso then NGC or ANACS. Not saying they all don't make mistakes, or are too liberal, but I scratch my head more on PCGS slabs then the others. |
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I never understood why PCGS doesn't look at the top set of lines. Because the bottom lines are the problem lines. Quote:
Just saw this, and it's currently at $600. Who the heck at PCGS saw Full Bell Lines on this coin? Can't tell if the slab is real or not on this small screen. Assuming its real there are two possibilities. The first is that is a terrible picture and it really is there given how blurry the reverse is. The second would be it was a mechanical error they would have fixed for free but the initial submitter decided to sell it for the higher price instead. To answer the question, no one at PCGS thought that was an FBL if that picture is accurate. Quote:
'm probably the only one, but I almost treat PCGS as I would SEGS or PCI. I think PCGS is for the 'I really don't know anything about coins, but if they it's XX, it must be..' crowd. You're on a very small island with that belief. |
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...that is a terrible picture and it really is there given how blurry the reverse is. I agree. |
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Just my opinion , but I disagree . I think the photos are sufficient enough to show at least a couple of full lines on a FBL designated slab .  |
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You're on a very small island with that belief. I have a 1950-D in a PCGS 66FS that is definitely not even '5' full steps by NGC standards, or mine. I agree with a lot of the PCGS grades on Peace dollars and a couple of other series I collect. But I take their strike quality designations with a grain of salt (and bottle of beer). |
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