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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Call it a "numismatic item". Truthful and hides the contents from casual observer.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Do I list the value as the actual price the buyer paid?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
Canada
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I have used "hobby supplies" a lot in the past, using the numismatic item term may tip off someone. I would use a bubble wrap mailer with the slab taped to thick cardboard inside the mailer.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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I have used the term "planchets" when mailing coins and never had a problem.
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Using a non-personal name for the address is wise also. Such as John's Mechanical, c/o (your name).
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
10743 Posts |
Hobby Supplies, always seem to work for me.
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Valued Member
Canada
288 Posts |
I always use "numismatic item." Have never had a problem.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
849 Posts |
Thanks for the feedback - I went with hobby supplies.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Absolutely the wrong thing to do . You did not declare the item properly by saying "hobby supplies". Although unlikely it could be seized and forfeited to the CBP as a falsely declared item. Coins of numismatic interest comes under US Tariff Code 9705.00.00.60 . There is no duty on coins and you can ship a numismatic coin up to $ 800.00 USD with no problems as far as US Customs goes. You cannot ship coins from certain countries such as Cuba , North Korea , and a few others as it is considered under trading with the enemies act. Any numismatic items over $800 USD can also be shipped with a bit more paper work involved but still absolutely no problems if you declare properly. We deal in person with US Customs twice a week , as we ship all of our US ebay sales from WA State . We always have our paperwork in order and have NEVER had an issue. Edited by Pacificoin
08/09/2017 11:01 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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When I send a slab, I describe the item on the customs form as:
"One metallic disc in a plastic frame".
X-ray it all they want and that's what they'll see.......no problems then.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Pacific, the no tax numismatic coins below $800usd, does that apply importing to Canada as well? Recently got a large tax bill on a morgan shipment and was not happy. Nothing surprises me with CBSA though, my last 1 oz 9999 gold bar cost me an additional 215 dollars in tax simply because the seller did not put a code in and they decided to help themselves to my money. 5 hours of my time and 3 months and still no closer
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thrustie, on the Gold bar you should be able to recover that through the CBSA appeals process. If you live in or near a major city with a CBSA office , ask for a supervisor and have all your documentation in order .
Did it in Victoria a couple of times and got a refund fairly quickly.
On the Morgan shipment GST/HST and PST totally applies sorry. The de minimus in Canada is 20.00 dollars CAD.
I feel your pain we just paid a stupid Customs fee on a Collection from the US. Only difference is we get an ITC for the GST paid as a business.
Good luck!
As an aside it seems that almost everything from the US gets stopped and tagged! Stuff from Europe and the UK slides right through. We just received a Dix Noonan Webb auction lot ( declared on the package at over 1100 pounds ) came right through!
No consistency at all from our border crew!
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New Member
Canada
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You have to declare the value of all well which crosses a border, it is the law. The next time when you will go in US and when previously unfortunately a customs officer will have opened your envelope and add some information at your attention. Your custom officer will have a particular attention for you, because he will have discovered who sent it...
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks for reply pacific, just frutrated and beating my head off the wall trying to deal with these guys and explaining to them that I cannot provide an original invoice/bill of sale as it was not a sale or any type of seller/buyer transaction. I'm about an hour from the buffalo border and serious contemplating a day trip just to speak to someone in person to get whatever it is they need me to do in order. As you said, I should not have been taxed on the fine gold and should be an open/shut case to begin with as the package was never opened.
I figured that was the case with morgans/coins as with other less than fine PMs blobs. No issue there just wanted to confirm that we do still pay tax on our own currency lol.
As a sidenote, I have found 100% success rate in shipping say a CDN silver dollar of insignificant and unnessessary insurance value across borde using the label "fabricated metal" along with an valur declaration of $1. Just a tip for those that want to ship lettermail and to make sure they are assigning the correct value which the banks assign.
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