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Are They Really "Unsearched" Lots Of Coins?

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 Posted 08/13/2017  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
A simple answer. No.
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 Posted 08/13/2017  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
If you buy them at garage sales - maybe.
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 Posted 08/13/2017  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coconutjoe to your friends list
It means that coins are "unsearched" by YOU!
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 Posted 08/13/2017  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
The rolls of "wheat pennies" with crazy coins at the end (gold, silver, etc) are a straight up scam. Mixed lots of "unsearched" US coins are likewise probably stacked so the seller wins every time.

Your chances get better the further you stray from people's comfort zone. Lots of world coins were probably searched for silver, but not for anything else. Ancients very often get unloaded in bulk by clueless inheritors or dealers, and very valuable stuff can be picked from lots of junk.

But yeah, the odds of getting a solid roll of quarter Eagles in a penny roll is zilch.
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 Posted 08/13/2017  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
If you luck out and get an unsearched lot, it will be because of exactly that, luck. Anything advertised as unsearched, will 99.9% of the time be searched. I bought a lot of Shield nickels once that just happened to be unsearched, but it wasn't advertised that way.
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 Posted 08/13/2017  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
The "unsearched" scam is a handy way for unscrupulous sellers to dump problem coins that would never sell by themselves by "salting" rolls with cleaned, cull, damaged, and counterfeit semi-keys and key dates.

Even estate-sale collections are almost always thoroughly searched and cherry-picked with the best items offered in private sales, long before the average collector ever sees the leftovers.

If you want to see truly-unsearched coin collections, your last remaining sources are from family members and heirs dumping Mom or Dad or Grandpa's collection at the local pawn shop or coin shop. This is why some of the most impressive, deepest collections are often held by dealers and ex-dealers - they get first crack at obtaining coins before the market ever sees them.
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 Posted 08/13/2017  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Yes. But only by Aliens.
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 Posted 08/13/2017  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list
Unsearched is a big fat lie.
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 Posted 08/13/2017  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Theoretically yes, there are "unsearched rolls" out there. But they would be sold by people who would not think of describing them as being "unsearched". In all likelihood, they would not be sold on ebay at all, since their owners would consider them as "money", not as "potentially valuable coins".

Why would anyone who knows that "these rolls might contain valuable coins" choose not to open them and search through them themselves?

Another logical impossibility: "unsearched rolls of wheat cents". How could they possibly know that it was a roll of purely wheat cents, if they were truly "unsearched"? Surely somebody would have had to search through them to sort out the wheat from the chaff. What did they do, give everybody doing the sorting some thick blurry glasses, so they could tell the difference between Wheats and Memorials but not have enough eyesight left to actually read the date and mintmark?

No, everybody actually selling "unsearched rolls" on ebay is a liar. Buy them in that knowledge, if you wish to, but personally, I'd recommend not giving any business to liars.
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 Posted 08/13/2017  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
I take a bit of different viewpoint. Now, I figure any coin lot offered has indeed been searched prior to me acquiring these coins. If I "search" a group of wheat cents for only dates and mintmarks, then that batch of coins is unsearched by me for any error coins that may be there. When I state this fact(truth) in the context of selling these coins as "unsearched", then this is true, isn't a lie (Sap!). Over the past four years I have purchased more than 27,000 wheat cents in bulk from a variety of sources. Included in these purchases is one " unsearched" roll sold on ebay just for grins, knowing it would be all common dates, it was of course the same as we pull CRHing bank boxes.

Were all my purchases just skunks? No. Most 1000 bulk LWCs had ratios of 4% to 19% of the teens through thirties and those were more common date/mm's. Average overall was 7% 10's-30's and 93% of the 40's/50's. Now, one time I did receive what I considered a truly "unsearched" batch...there was 53% 10's-30's including (5) 1909VDB, (1)1926S, (2)1922D, (1)1910S & (1)1915S plus a large amount of 1931/P/D, 1932P/D 1933P/D which I NEVER saw in any other batch bought. I thought I'd hit the jackpot, found a wonderful source.( guy wasn't coin collector, just bought LWC's from his customers at trade shows) So, ordered two more batches, seemed like it took longer to receive it. These two were the absolute worst of any purchase, ever! 3%, mostly 1936,37,38,39pP's and 97% 50's D mints. I'm assuming what happened was he sold all he had at first, when I ordered more he went to a dealer and got the trash there to fill the order! Risky business buying bulk coins, most often buyer gets taken.


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 Posted 08/14/2017  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
Yeah ,when you see the word " Unsearched " on E-Bay or any other online seller ,just disregard it and move on .
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 Posted 08/14/2017  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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But they would be sold by people who would not think of describing them as being "unsearched"... Why would anyone who knows that "these rolls might contain valuable coins" choose not to open them and search through them themselves?
Agreed.

For some reason "unsearched lots" remind me of this exchange on Game of Thrones...

Joffrey: I am the King!
Tywin: Any man who must say I am the king is no true king.


Any lot which must be described as unsearched is not truly unsearched.
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 Posted 09/06/2017  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malgal to your friends list
I haven't bought any that I found anything good in them so I stopped buying the so called unsearched coins.
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 Posted 09/15/2017  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
I didn't search them.
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