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I Sent These Off For Certification Would Like Other Opinions- 1964 SMS

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 Posted 08/21/2017  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Submissions were a waste of money, imho.

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 Posted 08/21/2017  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JD26 to your friends list
@ TheNickelGuy- haha thanks man. If it comes back certified as what I'm hoping it is, I will personally drive it out to you and let you see it lol
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 Posted 08/21/2017  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JD26 to your friends list
It's very difficult to tell by my pictures but I'm telling you if you saw them in person you would be more confident about what they were. I sent them to a rare coin dealer in Biloxi Ms after I studied and researched everything I could about them for about a month or so and when he told me that he felt very strongly that they were the real deal that's when I went ahead and sent them to PCGS... even if they come back as nothing special, I still learned a good bit along the way lol
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 Posted 08/21/2017  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jnesbitt82 to your friends list
This is where I respectfully disagree with Coinfrog. You just don't mess around with coins at this price point without certification. If it comes back real, (which from what I've seen, it will), the PCGS slab will do nothing but add money to your pocket.
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 Posted 08/21/2017  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JD26 to your friends list
Good point.
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 Posted 08/21/2017  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
Only thing bothers me is that I don't think that 1964 special mint coins were issued in "sets" like we think of with 1965, 1966 and 1967 special mint sets.
I just want to see these great images again when they are certified in the slabber-ooos.
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 Posted 08/21/2017  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list
I would say that the fingerprint on the Kennedy obverse kills it for me, but the PCGS example coin has one also. I'm hoping that they come back as the special strikes for you. To me they look just like slight die variations, but for those obsessed, they would be keys.
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 Posted 08/27/2017  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JD26 to your friends list

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what I'm wondering is if the coin displays the die scratches on the reverse and also has the raised teardrop under the crosslet of the 4, then is it a sms 100% without a doubt because that's how I understand the identification process works based on what I've read on PCGS and other Similar websites.
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 Posted 08/28/2017  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JD26 to your friends list
Does anybody know someone personally, or know how I could contact/email somebody that has experience with these? It sure would help me out. I would be very appreciative if someone could spread the word around that I'm looking to personally contact an expert or at least someone that's seen them in person.
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 Posted 08/28/2017  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
Can't help you but I am just as interested to have more info myself. Best of luck!
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 Posted 08/29/2017  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I am sure there are quite a few members watching this thread, and hoping for the best.

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 Posted 08/31/2017  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JD26 to your friends list

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Here are a few side by sides for diagnostic die comparisons.. my coin is on the left and the PCGS coin is on the right. I thought showing them this way would be the best way for everyone to see why I thought it would be worth a shot to send them to PCGS. I'm working on getting the comparisons of the other coins at the moment so I'll post them as I go. I appreciate anyone taking the time to look at them and chime in.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JD26 to your friends list

I-Sent-These-Off-For-Certification-Would-Like-Other-Opinions--1964-SMS
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Here's the rest of the side by sides of the quarter. I'll try and finish the other coins by tommorow afternoon and get them posted.
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 Posted 09/06/2017  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list
Wow. This is intriguing. Hoping for the best outcome!
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 Posted 09/06/2017  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I finally found an image of a Jefferson 1964 SMS and a page of info for what it's worth.
https://www.vdbcoins.com/index.php/...ail?Itemid=0
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