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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:I may be wrong but I thought TPG,s won't even bother to designate a variety if they need more than a 10X loupe to see it. If people cared enough to collect and pay more money for micro-varieties, then the TPGs would probably not only label them, but likely apply their typical marketing tricks to sell more (such as getting celebrity signatures on labels etc.).
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Rest in Peace
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Earle42... 
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There are something like 9 classes of collectable doubling to learn and a bunch more of non collectable doubling. John1 
Edited by John1 09/11/2017 08:53 am
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I appreciate all the feedback and yes I would love a copy of the book for dummies,please put me at the TOP of the list.What inspired the question was my brother.I'll show him a picture and first thing he says is where the DOUBLING and agree yet that's how their listed.Didn't know 10x magnification was used as a standard ,I do use a microscope camera .I ask a lot of y'all so this gives some clarification so hopefully I won't ask as many questions.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: If people cared enough to collect and pay more money for micro-varieties, then the TPGs would probably not only label them, but likely apply their typical marketing tricks to sell more I was going to say that they have to draw the line somewhere but after seeing some of the things they grade and all the different labels to draw the uninformed collector in - I don't think they have a line.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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For me, I care enough to collect minor Doubled Die varieties and could care way less that is it minor. I spotted one with my naked eye in the light during coin roll hunting. Others can say whatever they what, but this is what I think of it. The minor Doubled Dies are very fun for me to find. :)
Errers and Varietys.
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I started a couple of years ago when I saw some of my grandfathers coins,he was the type he kept them for a reason.So I was looking through his coin books from the 60's and saw references such as CONECA from there it's a whole new world out there.I try to live by the "RULE OF KISS"Keep It Simple Stupid and then came VV and the 30+ DDO and 30+DDR not counting RPM ,Traildies etc on one coin(KISS JUST FLEW OUT THE WINDOW)I started looking at coins to relax when I'd get home ,still fun not relaxing though.Thanks a lot again for all the info Still a Rookie and looks like I'll be one for awhile there's a lot of info out there.Where does the 1973 DDO-002 fall minor I'm thinking and would it recognized by TPG
Edited by SDM 09/11/2017 1:12 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Your welcome. I always look at my Lincoln cents for Doubled Dies. It's very fun searching for them etheir if it's minor or not. :)
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Others can say whatever they what, but this is what I think of it. The minor Doubled Dies are very fun for me to find. :) And that is what a hobby is all about - what we, as individuals enjoy. For some reason humans love to give into peer pressure from the cradle (well almost) to the grave. When we let our hobby be driven by other's ideas, then where is the fun?
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Bedrock of the Community
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That is what the hobby is about Earle42. But, peer pressure is not good or fun. That's why the fun disappears. As long as there is no peer pressure, then we can and will have a lot of fun. 
Errers and Varietys.
Edited by Errers and Varietys 09/11/2017 5:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote: For some reason humans love to give into peer pressure from the cradle (well almost) to the grave. When we let our hobby be driven by other's ideas, then where is the fun? Earle42, that is so true! If we are finding that our hobby, however we define and understand it, is not fun anymore, we should drop it and find something that IS fun, or focus on the parts that ARE fun. Unlike eating, numismatics is not required to live. I see nothing wrong if someone needs a 100x microscope to pursue their hobby. There are plenty of people whose hobby is microscopy or telescopy and who find great satisfaction in it.
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Rest in Peace
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From my short time of study and searching for errors, I have found about 45x is really al the magnification needed to identify most hub doubling( DDO / DDR/RPM). Any more than that picks up the normal surface distortions on all stamped/pressed metals. Those tiny creavases, bumbs, all change dependent upon light source and direction, you can see whatever you imagine it to be. SDM, PM me or turn your emails on, I finally at least have a working copy of the first two chapters, covers doubled dies and mechanical damages. Same for any other newbie who wants help understanding the differences!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hey Crazyb0. That's great that you have 2 working chapter copies of your book you're working on. 
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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@Crazyb0  Great thing to make available - I am sure there will be a lot of people who benefit. A few years back when re-entering the hobby it would have been nice to have a comprehensive book in hand to learn all the things that had changed since the early 80s when a lot of my collecting went by the wayside.
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: That is what the hobby is about Earle42. But, peer pressure is not good or fun. That's why the fun disappears. As long as there is no peer pressure, then we can and will have a lot of fun. When I made the comment about peer pressure I thought about adding something, but did not. So I will now. I was going to say add to the end of the post: This from a guy who named his dog Kitty, his cat puppy, and collects antique glass things from the tops of telephone poles. I now live in a more "proper" area and you should see the look on peoples' faces when I call my dog..."Here Kitty, Kitty." Life needs to be full of laughter and fun - these are two important items that are preyed upon by peer pressure.
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