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Bedrock of the Community
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While the medals are very nice, I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger on these guys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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In case anyone was wondering, all of these are still available (63 Army currently available).
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Army is "Currently Unavailable" now. Not sure when that happened.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Navy and Marines sets are unavailable now as well. Looks like the Mint is honoring their stated policy of not exceeding the original orders amounts.  |
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Looks like the Mint is honoring their stated policy of not exceeding the original orders amounts. I didn't expect them to do anything else. I don't subscribe to the theory that the US Mint is the "Evil Empire" and that it is out to mess with collectors. (@BadDog: I'm not saying you do, but from some of the comments left here on CCF it is clear that some folks do!) Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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09/19/2018 11:45 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The US Mint is a business run by human beings. Adjust your expectations accordingly.
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09/20/2018 01:55 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't subscribe to the theory that the US Mint is the "Evil Empire" and that it is out to mess with collectors. It's not that they're the evil empire out to mess with collectors, but they have given people reasons to distrust them. A major one that comes to mind is the 2012 ASE set that was basically advertised as special and unique ect and then later in the year one of the coins from it appeared in another set that had never been mentioned during the sales of the first ASE set. To make matters even worse the second set was a Coin and Currency set where they had to coordinate with the BEP so they absolutely knew that set was coming the whole time. Things like that lead people to lose trust in them when they aren't upfront about the offerings that will be coming. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't disagree with that but look closely enough and you will find similar flaws with any business. I.e., Marketing isn't in step with product/operations, or they have to make moves to correct issues that came up after the original direction was set. This may be easier to justify since this is completely discretionary spending. If we were talking about a tire or pacemaker company, there would likely be class action. The fact that the 2012-S ASE was made available in another product was disappointing, I totally agree with that... yet I do like the other product. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:The fact that the 2012-S ASE was made available in another product was disappointing, I totally agree with that... yet I do like the other product. Agreed. I liked the other product as well, I just wish that we would have known about it from the start. I still would have liked the ASE set knowing the proof was going to be used twice as the RP was the real selling point to me anyway, it just left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths when the surprise second product was announced. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I hear you, and I agree with you. I was taken aback on that product "course correction" as well. Get someone from marketing, someone from product, and someone from operations in the same room and ask them the question on why this happened, and you will probably get 3 different answers. Maybe. This just encouraged me go look at my sets from 2012. Thanks for that  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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This just encouraged me go look at my sets from 2012. Thanks for that
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like the Mint is honoring their stated policy of not exceeding the original orders amounts Well, I guess the Mint has decided NOT to honor their policy of not exceeding the original order totals for the medals  The 10/7 sales report indicates that: - the Army medal is now at 15,585, 8 over the initial order maximum of 15,577 - the Navy medal is now at 12,209, 3 over the initial order maximum of 12,206 - the Marines medal is now at 12,617, 14 over the initial order maximum of 12,603 - the Air Service medal is now at 12,489, 15 over the initial order maximum of 12,474. Only the Coast Guard, currently at 9,424, is still below it's initial order maximum of 9,800. IMHO it's disappointing that Mint has decided to sell in excess of the initial orders for these medals. The excess sales aren't very great yet and I suppose they could still fluctuate down to the original sales maximums. I suppose it could also be that the weekly sales reports don't accurately depict the maximum sales of the medals? I could see that happening if returns during the week lowered maximum sales number by a few medals. I guess we'll have to wait and see if the totals continue to go up  Edited by BadDog
10/09/2018 8:47 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
United States
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The figures presented in the weekly updates provided by the Mint are not final or audited - the Mint states such at the top of the page that presents the figures. They shouldn't be considered final until a full reconciliation is conducted at the end of the fiscal and/or calendar year.
The numbers presented at the close of the sales period for these medals were tentative, the numbers presented now are tentative. No absolute conclusions can be drawn.
I don't see any foul here with only tentative numbers being available.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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10/10/2018 2:17 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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The numbers presented at the close of the sales period for these medals were tentative, the numbers presented now are tentative. No absolute conclusions can be drawn. Normally this is correct, but is it this case? When the Mint indicated that they wouldn't exceed the initial order maximums during the re-sale period they MUST have had a number as the maximum for each medal. Otherwise, how could they make that policy? Additionally, the Mint continually revised downward the number of orders between the end of the ordering period and the beginning of deliveries as orders were cancelled. This indicates to me that the reported maximums were in fact the actual maximums. As I said, the numbers are close enough right now to be unsure whether or not the maximums were exceeded. IF they continue to go up, then I don't believe that will the case. Time will tell |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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An update of sorts: I have the UNC Silver Dollar and am looking to add the proof SD to my commemoratives collection. Have found stand alone SD proofs selling for above the issue price.
Finding "Sets" with the Army medal to be at or close to the 2018 USM issue price. Individually graded examples of all five medals can be had but I've yet to see a listing that includes just the medals. Only interested in the Army medal. . .
This thread has been very helpful as I do my homework. Appreciate all who contributed.
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