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1866 Rays Shield Nickel You Vs TPG

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 Posted 11/09/2017  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
I think it has a typical late die state strike. Note that both the horizontal and vertical lines in the shield are not complete. The outline of the shield is also weak at the bottom.

The reverse also shows a typical strike with the top 3 stars flat with no separation among the points.

the 1866 Shield nickel was the first time the design was tried on a coin this size. Smaller 3 cent nickel coins were minted in 1865 with similar striking issues.

If I were picking one up, I would choose one with a good or great strike rather than settling for typical.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
What? No die cracks?

MS64 for me as well...
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 Posted 11/09/2017  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
I'll be the stick in the mud and say au58 just to be different.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
MS-65. Not bad. May look better in hand. Shield lines could be better. Unless it's a great deal, I'd wait for a fully struck specimen.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I'll say 63.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
63, and I'd pass just because of the weak strike.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steelers72 to your friends list
Thanks for all of the opinions. The strike on the obverse does sway me away from this one. Love the color though. Will post the grade for those who are curious in 24 hrs
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 Posted 11/09/2017  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
Everything can't be a weak strike - I'll go AU58 also.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
A really nice 'with rays'.
I am going to go with AU55,
but I think there is some degree of weak strike as well.

There are small flat areas where there should be high points in the design (tips of leaves, parts of the scrolling around the shield, and less than excellent definition on some of the rays).

I can't quite make up my mind on the raised bump area in the horizontal lines of the shield - someone else may be able to educate me.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
No offense, but it seems to lack eye appeal, which is why I offered a lower grade.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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Everything can't be a weak strike - I'll go AU58 also.




The luster says AU+ also.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
MS-63.
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 Posted 11/10/2017  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I'm in the AU camp on this one, maybe AU55?
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 Posted 11/10/2017  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Split opinions on this one - which is right?
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 Posted 11/10/2017  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steelers72 to your friends list
MS63 is what PCGS graded this coin
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